My Install

00goobs · Post by **00goobs** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:26 pm

My 9887 puts out about 2.something volts and I believe it clips the TI amps at about half gain. You may not need the line driver if the ms8 is already near the amps....

I do admit my TI amps seem noisy at half gain and above. I can hear a hiss with RCAs on and off and with a shorted RCA too. I've heard it in the tantrum line as well...

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:14 am

Thanks for the input guys. So far the system is dead quiet. No hissing at all. Also I
Am not having any trouble with clipping. The sq is quit impressive. I just seem to be frustrated that I am loosing a fair amount of output with the ms8. The
Ms8 really is a nice component. The staging is crazy good.
I think I'm going to give the line driver a try anyway. Worst case is I pull it back out.
And your right on that until you try it out there are advantages and disadvantages to using a processor.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:52 pm

Got a chance to play outside today. No wife, and no kids. Happy day, just me and my truck. Started building rear door baffles today. So far everything is fitting perfect. I'm trying to figure out how to build a custom grill cover to show the drivers once I'v put the door panel back on.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:09 pm

Oops, just about forgot to post some pics.

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This is the stock 4x6 location.

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There was an old 5-1/4 installed.

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Rough fitting of speaker baffle

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Installed some deadner inside door to minimize rattles and road noise.

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Painted flat black

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Left driver is a 5-1/4 P/G TI5. Right driver is a Morel 5-1/4 Elate sub.

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TI5 tweet installed and some mor deadner installed on outside of door

Pretty happy with the rear door so far.

Post by **AVICJR** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:12 pm

Nice work!!

Post by **ttocs** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:14 pm

what did you do to get the beaver so mad to get him to chew those holes in the metal

? Just kidding been there done that myself, hard as heck cutting inside curves like that with tin-snips huh?

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:34 pm

Actually that first hole was there when I got the truck. When I opened up the panel originally there was a house speaker in there. Lol. I actually cleaned up that hole as much as I could. You should have seen it before.

Post by **ttocs** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:05 pm

gotcha yea it looks like someone had an old/bad set of tin snips to do it originally, or like I said an angry beaver but take my word for it those f'rs are hell of a handfull and its easy to end up with blood everywhere.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:39 pm

Lol. Any ideas on how to make a removable grill cover? I have three rowdy kids I dont want getting there grubby fingers all over my favorite speakers.

Post by **ttocs** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:08 pm

you have the speakers set down in the wood so it would not be hard. I made some simple but effective grills for my kick panels that have held up to my buddies big feet.

Fist I would start by cutting out the plastic on the door panel to show the other speaker and the tweeter. Leave some plasic around the edges or in the corners to allow the grill to mount too and then cut a piece of mdf to fit in that area. All I did on my kicks grill was cut a piece of MDF out in the shape I needed, and then cut out the spot for the speaker holes. Hold it up where you want it, and then drill some 1/4" holes through the grill piece as well as either into the door or if you can into the baffle you made. Now take a 1/4" dowel rod, round of the tip a little and cut it and glue it into the hole in the grill and they will hold the grill in place(if drilling more then one be sure to insert the dowel in the holes you just drilled before drilling any others so it will still be aligned). I then got some screen material like you find in your windows and cut it out a little smaller then the shape of the grill. I just taped it down in a couple of places so it is tight and then poured fiberglass resin over the screen onto the wood. When the resin dries the flimsy screen material will be held tight by the resin and you will be suprised how strong it is while not blocking much sound if any. Cover it with some grill cloth, push the dowels in and call it a day.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:41 am

Thats awesome. Thanks for the tips. I'm going to try it out today.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:01 pm

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So the rear doors turned out well. They sound amazing.
But I'm hung up on what to do for a screen cover. I have three kids and need something strong that the kids can't poke fingers through. Any ideas? I had one suggestion but it was not strong enough. Is there a product out there that is similar to the factory screens?

Post by **ttocs** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:34 pm

did you try my suggestion with the window screen and fiberglass resin?

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:03 pm

Yes. But the screen was hard to keep tight and the resin filled the holes.

Post by **ttocs** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:18 pm

the screen was a bit tricky. I just clamped a larger then needed piece over the wood to keep it tight. you can always re-drill the holes after and fill the old ones with some filler(bondo).

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:37 pm

I'm going to give it a try again. But I was trying to think up some more ideas and happen to be walking through Walmart today to buy kids some new shoes. And out of the corner of my eye i seen the metal desk garbage cans made of heavy screen material for $6. So I'm going to try and cut it up and bend it. It might just work perfect

dedlyjedly · Post by **dedlyjedly** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:18 pm

Now you're on the right track....bending and molding metal is the best way, but working with a finished product like that trash can may prove to be more hassle that it's worth. You'll likely have stress spots pop up let alone the finish cracking and making a mess of the project.

I always mad a jig on a router table in order to create custom grills. This is the only real way to make it precise enough that when you start working the metal mesh tiny imperfections don't drive you crazy and ruin the whole cosmetic appeal of some nice trim and accent work in a custom install. Essentially you can cut out a piece of mdf to the shape you desire, use a round-over bit to profile the edge and then use a soft-blow hammer to mold the mesh to your jig.

You can probably do a lot of searching to find something similar for a better price, but I recommend sourcing some raw materials here...

http://mobilesolutions-usa.com/smartpar ... mesh_1.htm

The owner of that site is a legend in the fabrication world and has hands on experience using these materials in applications like yours. You won't have to waste money or time trying to find substitute products that may or may not work as desired.

Post by **ttocs** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:27 am

if You want I just discovered a bunch of old speaker grill material(the metal parts). You could cut them up with some tin snipc and glue them in place and they are solid enough to work. I am not using them so if you want them be happy to send them your way for nothing more then shipping.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:04 am

Yes, I finally have my new head unit. It took forever to get. Now to find the time to install it.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:06 am

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Starunit10 · Post by **Starunit10** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:43 am

How's the new deck ? I like the looks of the gps. does it work well? I have a avic 3300 bt with the u220 add on gps, it sucks ass in canada (gps) but soon as you cross the border it comes alive and is great.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:52 pm

Starunit10 wrote:How's the new deck ? I like the looks of the gps. does it work well? I have a avic 3300 bt with the u220 add on gps, it sucks ass in canada (gps) but soon as you cross the border it comes alive and is great.

It's a sweet deck. Lots of features. Really fast processing. I like that it will take a sd card or USB drive for music and movies.
But like most old school stuff I'm missing my old deck a bit. I miss the built in hard drive being able to rip a cd was an awesome feature the avic z1 had. Also like most older gear the quality seems much higher than the new deck.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:21 pm

Got the two end sinks done on the RSD amp today. They look great I think. Old school gold. My favorite.

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Starunit10 · Post by **Starunit10** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:07 pm

but does the gps work like the picture? or just show 2d roads.

Drock · Post by **Drock** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:56 pm

Starunit10 wrote:but does the gps work like the picture? or just show 2d roads.

To be honest I really have not taken the time to play with it yet. The one thing that sucks is it does not come with a manual, only a cd. So how the hell a guy is supposed to Learn how to use it properly without having a computer in the vehicle is stupid to me.
The maps are very fast and accurate though. And the avic feeds from my iPhone feat is great.

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