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And So It Begins.........Again...

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:21 pm
by Wrennagade
Well my Phriends, I promised my two XS's+Cap to my buddy as payment for painting my house & figured I would temporarily put some gear in until I started my next build. Well after a few days I decided I'd rather not have such nice gear riding around unbolted in a rather dismal manner. :? So, I figure why not start a huge expansive project because I have no time to do so! :lol:

The wife just ordered a Shuriken BT60 for me (hope that will suffice), I just ordered 20' of hyperflex 0 gauge power+4' of 0 gauge gnd wire. I'll be putting the following into the subie:

Reactor, Ti1200.1, DD10, Ti BassCUBE, & possibly TLD66. :shock:

I'll keep using my Memphis comps & 3-ways for now & add my EliteD 12'' + a Clarion 10''(for mid bass) :shock:

I am thinking of using a spray sound deadener on the entire back as Dynamat is not within my budget. I have a few roll of Dead Liner but am saving those for the future 4Runner install :wink:

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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:41 pm
by Wrennagade
Just editted my post-not putting in the 500.4, no need...

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:48 pm
by Wrennagade
Got my 0g wire today, not bad as far as flexibility for the price (ebay) & got the back rattle canned with some sound deadening spray. I'll start on the side enclosures soon, I'm going to match they're color with the gray trim. :D

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:42 pm
by stipud
Wrennagade wrote:a Clarion 10''(for mid bass) :shock:
I hope you're installing them in stereo in the front, otherwise you are going to draw the soundstage to the back of the car and cause cancellations with the Elite. Not ideal.

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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:34 pm
by Wrennagade
Yeah, I'm holding off on the tens for now. I have the spare wheel well all taped off but wondering if the space will be to large for the EliteD 12 as I'll be utilizing all of it :hmm: ...what do you guys think?

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:32 am
by stipud
You'd have to install it inverted.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:22 am
by Wrennagade
Why? I

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:47 am
by paintguy
Wrennagade wrote:Why? I
Mounting depth for a start I'd say, unless you're building upwards from the wheel well too.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:02 pm
by Wrennagade
Here's my subwoofer enclosure design...

Glassing the spare tire well now...
:D

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:04 pm
by Wrennagade
:mrgreen:

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:02 pm
by ttocs
make a frame to go around the outside of the glass and then you have the option of flush-mounting the sub from the back for a smoother look. Just make the entire top removable.

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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:16 am
by stipud
Elite is going to need a double stack of 3/4 MDF or 1" at bare minimum! It's a fucking monster!

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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:36 am
by Wrennagade
got some 1"ordered already. gonna brace the enclosure as well...

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:20 pm
by Wrennagade
:) Well the glassing is coming along nicely, since I'm practicing patience & not rushing through my install it's going to take some time. I added braces to reinforce the sides & will be squaring up the sides with some slats hopefully tomorrow to help the MDF top fit evenly.

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:59 pm
by ttocs
as long as those dowels are I would have gone thicker or tried to stabalize the center of them with smaller pieces.

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:05 pm
by Wrennagade
I figure the enclosure being in the well will stabalize it overall, these are there to keep the fiberglass from bending out of shape while it is out of the car & being worked on. My other fiberglass box was bent out of shape some & didn't fit as molded when I put it into it's spot...had to pound the well in some & force it into place! Didn't want that happening again, the MDF & car should brace it pretty damn good.

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:07 pm
by ttocs
do you mean you are going to add more layers outside of the car? It does look a little thin but I would get it as thick as you want it too be while its in the car. Each time you add a layer it can pull/shrink the existing shape.

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:15 pm
by Wrennagade
It's about 3 to 4 layers thick right now. I've used 1+1/2 mat packs, 1+2/3 cloths & almost an entire gallon of resin. I was thinking this should be thick enough, but it's only my 2nd attempt at fiberglassing so you think it should be thicker?

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:47 am
by paintguy
Wrennagade wrote:It's about 3 to 4 layers thick right now. I've used 1+1/2 mat packs, 1+2/3 cloths & almost an entire gallon of resin. I was thinking this should be thick enough, but it's only my 2nd attempt at fiberglassing so you think it should be thicker?
For a sub enclosure I'd say 3 to 4 layers is a good starting point. Mine is around ½" thick (including an ⅛" layer of coremat) and braced heavily. Maybe a bit OTT, but then so is the sub you're using (mine's for an IDmax 12).

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:24 am
by ttocs
easy way to test it, stand on it...........

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:28 am
by Wrennagade
Hmm. Well I'll keep layering it up then...

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:14 am
by ttocs
I build mine to the point that I know I can stand on it and not have to worry about it. To build thicker layers this is where its better to use the kitty-hair style. just tear off handfulls and soak them, use a roller to get the air out of it.

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:16 am
by Wrennagade
Kitty hair? where do I buy this?

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:49 am
by Wrennagade
I went & bought a5.3sq. ft. roll of pink fiber glass installation....Hope that's what kitty hair is...bought another gallon of reason too, man this is getting expensive!

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:52 am
by ttocs
the stuff I am talking about is white, and random sized/placed strands that are cut and pressed into a sheet. its easy just to tear off a handfull at a time, put it where you want it and then saturate it with resin.