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The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:13 pm
by Nils
This will be the tread of one of my amp Projects. And i have called her Frank's Sister. Hopefully this will be a detailed worklog for this amp :)

The beginning :)

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Heatsink ready to get Shorter

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Correct length.

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And here with Boards inn for mockup :)

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This is how far i have come now, i have forgot to take pics of the drilling. Next step is to figure out how to do the wiring and endplates, and some other small issues :)

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:02 pm
by todd217
looks good,are all the connections going to be on one side?

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:51 pm
by ttocs
Thanks for sharing looks like fun. How do you tap the holes for the transistors that do not go through the sink? Just drill a hole and use a harder-metal screw to cut the threads and seat it itself?

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:18 pm
by zztunnell
Where in the world did you find a raw heat sink that long? Did you have it machined yourself?

This is the start of something VERY cool!!

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:29 pm
by Kirghiz
Very cool!

What are the amps you are building this out of?

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:41 pm
by vwdude
zztunnell wrote:Where in the world did you find a raw heat sink that long? Did you have it machined yourself?

This is the start of something VERY cool!!
My question and thoughts exactly. This is a very cool project. Il bet you can replace the power and ground connector on the end board with 4 gauge ones and then run 8 gauge wires to each board. Also, I would have left more room on the preside to allow for wiring up the individual gains, RCAs and other eq controls. May e would have even set the end plates an inch in to make the connectors hidden.

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:30 pm
by itchnertamatoa
now that's going to be interesting ... where's the suscribe button????

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:07 am
by Nils
Thanks for feedback, funny that no one have mentioned the pink dotted amp in the middle :)

@todd217: That is the plan to have all conections on one side, it will be a tight fit, i will try to get close to "original" look as possible.

@ttocs: i have drilled out the holes first and tapped them out :)

@zztunnell: well i have got them made for me, they are 96% similar to the original heatsink, have a couple of lengths of 4 meters :) you can also take a look at this link: http://www.phoenixphorum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18640

@Kirghiz: there will be 3 MS275 boards :)

@vwdude: when it comes to wiring i haven't decided yet, maybe gold bars maybe wire, i also have some issues regarding to bass eq (wich i wil newer use) and gain how to make it look nice and original :)
A lot of thinking :)

This amp will be a "test rabbit" as we say in Norway, i have 3 more amps to "build" that are bigger than this one. This is the amp that i can make mistakes on, the tre others i can't :)

I'll try to ceep this updated :)

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:16 am
by ttocs
when the hole doesn't go through the sink, how do you tapp them?

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:27 am
by groundpounder
With what is called a bottom tap. It is square or blunt on the end and made just for tapping such a hole.

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:54 am
by Nils
ttocs wrote:when the hole doesn't go through the sink, how do you tapp them?
You use a bottom tap as groundpounder says, there are different taps for different jobs :) the tap i used isn't actually a bottom tap, but the closest you get, as you can see on the pic it has a "cone" like the drillbit, when you have drilled a hole it is much easier to feel when you hit bottom, this tap has treads all the way down :) sorry that i missunderstand Your question :)

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Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:28 pm
by ttocs
ah ok thanks never had to do one and was wondering.

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:11 am
by Nils
A little update, playing With different ideas how to solve the endplate layouts, here is one:


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Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:00 am
by PhuckinGood
Great thread, more please .... :clap:

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:53 pm
by Macgyver76
In the name of saving space on the end how about a six over six terminal for the speaker connections like they used on the TI900.7?

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:11 pm
by Nils
PhuckinGood wrote:Great thread, more please .... :clap:
Thanks, I'll try to keep this tread updated :)

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:18 pm
by Nils
Macgyver76 wrote:In the name of saving space on the end how about a six over six terminal for the speaker connections like they used on the TI900.7?
I will check this out, but I will try to keep this as "original MS look" as possible :) and Eric, I know I need your experience and knowledge about a couple of issues on this project :)

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:11 pm
by marko
I would use both ends for terminals rather than try and squeeze them all on one side, every LE amp is like that anyway.. maybe power/remote on one end and speaker/rca on the other.

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:31 am
by joerg
As soon as somebody comes up with an oldschool amp project all the blokes come crawling out of their hideouts. :)

Great project! Keep us posted. Hopefully you´re using metric screws... :lol:

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:06 am
by marko
joerg wrote:As soon as somebody comes up with an oldschool amp project all the blokes come crawling out of their hideouts. :)

Great project! Keep us posted. Hopefully you´re using metric screws... :lol:
I still frequent these forums on a regular basis, I just don't have anything to show right now but fear not I have ideas brewing for the Skoda!!

by the way, what's with the "metric" business? MS amps had imperial screws didn't they?

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:24 am
by Nils
marko wrote:I would use both ends for terminals rather than try and squeeze them all on one side, every LE amp is like that anyway.. maybe power/remote on one end and speaker/rca on the other.
I Think i have to try out a couple of different layout's the internal wiring have to look nice also. Thanks for input :)

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:29 am
by Nils
joerg wrote:As soon as somebody comes up with an oldschool amp project all the blokes come crawling out of their hideouts. :)

Great project! Keep us posted. Hopefully you´re using metric screws... :lol:
Thanks Joerg, and of course there is metric here :) on this project there will be a mix I think, but on the other three I think I will do imperial...

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:46 pm
by vwdude
Any updates?

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:04 am
by Nils
vwdude wrote:Any updates?
Sorry, progress is slowly, I'm just collecting parts, cables and terminals. I will try to cut out some test endplates during next week :)

Re: The making of Frank's Sister

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:28 am
by Nils
A mini update

Can you see the difference? this is original and "original" this is why i'm searching for all the odd parts :)

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Can anyone see wich one that is the original? And tell me why :)