Phoenix Gold Phorum

So I sold my wife gold last night and its time for a good long term car
her are the 2 choice
1 Toyota corolla sport 4door 56 00km a/c ps pb pm cd
2 Honda civic 2003 base 4 door model not very many options
88 000km they are both the same price around 10k canadain
I have not heard any bad review on both car.. They are not sports cars but should last for ever
Wife has drive both of them and said they drive the same
I think I should get the one with less km
the body are the same on both no damage windsheids 100% 5spd

Im just glad to get rid of the mk3 vw golf ... great car but can nickel and dime you to death!!!

Love my corolla

I want another 1

They are so easy to work on

Given those choices I would take the Corolla as well, assuming it's the 2003+ version.

i pick the toyota also. the S models in the 2003 and up generation are known for building up sludge in the bottom of the motor, so doing a oil flush when you get it is a good idea, and then staying on top of the oil changes after that

Bfowler wrote:i pick the toyota also. the S models in the 2003 and up generation are known for building up sludge in the bottom of the motor, so doing a oil flush when you get it is a good idea, and then staying on top of the oil changes after that

Yeah, it's pretty much an issue with those long 15000 mile factory OCI's that all the manufacturers are trying to get away with now. They are basically cashing in on people's laziness... those who consider oil changes a hassle, so if the car lasts 15000 miles between changes, they are happier. When 5000 miles was the norm, sludge issues like this were few and far between.

To make matters worse, people got used to skipping an oil change every now and then back when it was 5000 miles. Now that OCI's are 15000, many people are running their engines 30000+ miles without changing the oil. My mechanic friend would regularly see engines in new cars completely seized because the oil was never changed, and it either leaked/burned off completely or sheared down to a useless weight. The same people have been driving their car for weeks with the oil light on

Saab had the same issue in the 9-5. After switching to 5000km/3000mile OCI's I have pretty much cleaned all the PO's sludge out.

good points we just gave the guy some money
he has to get the rims put on and one little thing
I will change the oil day we get it
I alway do that as you never know!