Ported Box for 2 10 rsdc

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yeah.

i will try and make a box to pg's specs tomorrow or Tuesday and see what happens
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hay i didnt get all this help ! lol....
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Ok I finally got BassBox semi-working again, but it's not 100% compatible with Vista 64 so there are a few things I can't work out, like vent velocity :(

Here's a comparison of the 10 in the .5 SQ sealed box, vs the 10 in the .9 SQ ported box. The orange is sealed, and the red is ported. I have simulated in-car cabin gain with a 12dB/oct rise at 50Hz (the upper of the two response lines).

You can see when we account for cabin gain, the sealed RSDC is designed to play FLAT! Note the big response hump on the ported design... your system would be much louder at around 30Hz than other frequencies. 6dB more than the sealed setup around that frequency.

The ported box is tuned for 27Hz. If we want to apply the same tuning to a 2" port to reduce the chance of chuffing, we would increase the box size to 1cuft, with a port length of 11.5". Their frequency response would be pretty much identical. I can calculate slot ported enclosures as well, if you would prefer to build that.

The boxes seem crazy small, but the RSDC is a crazy woofer! BassBox actually agrees with their recommendations... its box wizard comes up with nearly the exact same thing!
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Pug}{maN wrote:hay i didnt get all this help ! lol....
the box for your 12 actually makes sense though!
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i've had tougher choices at a soda machine...
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Bfowler wrote:
Pug}{maN wrote:hay i didnt get all this help ! lol....
the box for your 12 actually makes sense though!
in my first post i was asking about the 10, the 10 box uncertainty scared me so thats why i went with a 12... :no: i was just joke'n though... :mrgreen:
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.9-1cuft for a ported 10 isn't unusual in my experience. The 1.5" diameter port is a bit odd... I would worry about chuffing with a full 500w on it.
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so what do you recommend then for 2 10s ported with port area(diameter and width) and depth/length
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VIP3R wrote:so what do you recommend then for 2 10s ported with port area(diameter and width) and depth/length
2cuft total area, 2x 2" ports, 10-11.5" long.
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so 2 2 inch ports? or one port 2x2? little confused.
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VIP3R wrote:so 2 2 inch ports? or one port 2x2? little confused.
2 2 inch ports
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even a 2" port for a 10 with as much excursion as an RSDC would make me worry about port noise... the ported 10 I use in my HT is a single 3" port
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there is always aeros :)
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well... its been a month since we had this conversation, any new evidence?

so we're looking at
.7 sealed
or
1.0 ported with an 11" x 2" port

Anyone build them and see?
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haha almost forgot about this thread
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i just ran out of time with school! i'm sorry :(
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stipud wrote:Ok I finally got BassBox semi-working again, but it's not 100% compatible with Vista 64 so there are a few things I can't work out, like vent velocity :(

Here's a comparison of the 10 in the .5 SQ sealed box, vs the 10 in the .9 SQ ported box. The orange is sealed, and the red is ported. I have simulated in-car cabin gain with a 12dB/oct rise at 50Hz (the upper of the two response lines).

You can see when we account for cabin gain, the sealed RSDC is designed to play FLAT! Note the big response hump on the ported design... your system would be much louder at around 30Hz than other frequencies. 6dB more than the sealed setup around that frequency.

The ported box is tuned for 27Hz. If we want to apply the same tuning to a 2" port to reduce the chance of chuffing, we would increase the box size to 1cuft, with a port length of 11.5". Their frequency response would be pretty much identical. I can calculate slot ported enclosures as well, if you would prefer to build that.

The boxes seem crazy small, but the RSDC is a crazy woofer! BassBox actually agrees with their recommendations... its box wizard comes up with nearly the exact same thing!
Tom,

Glad you didn't tear apart my calculations. I played hell trying to get realistic ported specs for the 10's, the 12's weren't too bad.
I think we've established that "Ka Ka" and "Tukki Tukki" don't work.
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