ZX500 w/ blown resistors, HELP!

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ZX500 w/ blown resistors, HELP!

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Hi guys,
I have a ZX500v2 that I've had for a while, it has recently developed a turn off pop, and a bit of noise.
So I opened her up to have a look and I found two blown resistors on the input board (pic attached).
Picture is a bit average as I only have a cellphone camera but I'll try sort out a better one.
Problem is I cant read what value they were as they're now burnt out.
So if anyone knows what to replace them with that would be awesome.
Cheers, Phill
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if you look next to the componants they are numbered. R12, R13, R14. As good as the pic is if we had the r number it would help.
what else can I say I am a grumpy asshole most of the time.
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I'm pretty sure they are 100K, 1/8w, but scott is right, if you can get a decent photo with a real camera, or give us component locations we can verify.

It is VERY common for these to burn when there is DC on the signal or shield, or when the input is seriously over driven. They can cause all sorts of different issues, pops and thumps as well as the amplifier breaking out in low frequency oscillation.

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M: M100, M44 for a custom amp project
Zx: Zx500, Zx450, Black Zx350
ZxTi: 4 Zx600Ti's, 1 Zx400Ti
Ti: 5 800.1's & 900.7 for a custom amp project. 1 1200.1, 1 1000.2
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BTW, forgot to mention, welcome to the phorum!
M: M100, M44 for a custom amp project
Zx: Zx500, Zx450, Black Zx350
ZxTi: 4 Zx600Ti's, 1 Zx400Ti
Ti: 5 800.1's & 900.7 for a custom amp project. 1 1200.1, 1 1000.2
Tantrum: 2 1200.1's, 1 600.4, 1 500.2
XS: XS6600
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thanks :)
I found some numbers underneath R1 and R51.
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They are 100k 1/8w, and check your signal. Your HU is either jacked up, or you were overdriving the input. If it is a lower end HU, then it might just be that the input signal was in hard clipping for a while, but check your stuff out, there are only a few likely scenarios where these resistors go open, and it is not simply a defect or design flaw.

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M: M100, M44 for a custom amp project
Zx: Zx500, Zx450, Black Zx350
ZxTi: 4 Zx600Ti's, 1 Zx400Ti
Ti: 5 800.1's & 900.7 for a custom amp project. 1 1200.1, 1 1000.2
Tantrum: 2 1200.1's, 1 600.4, 1 500.2
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Check voltage between Audio Ground (two inside connectors on speaker terminal) and B-, B+. R1 and R51 is 100 ohm 1/8 watt
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I apologize, I just checked one of my zx500s and valeks is correct. Earlier I just checked the schematic-- must have been a misprint, but the one I have does show 100k.
M: M100, M44 for a custom amp project
Zx: Zx500, Zx450, Black Zx350
ZxTi: 4 Zx600Ti's, 1 Zx400Ti
Ti: 5 800.1's & 900.7 for a custom amp project. 1 1200.1, 1 1000.2
Tantrum: 2 1200.1's, 1 600.4, 1 500.2
XS: XS6600
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M: M100, M44 for a custom amp project
Zx: Zx500, Zx450, Black Zx350
ZxTi: 4 Zx600Ti's, 1 Zx400Ti
Ti: 5 800.1's & 900.7 for a custom amp project. 1 1200.1, 1 1000.2
Tantrum: 2 1200.1's, 1 600.4, 1 500.2
XS: XS6600
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Jacampb2 wrote:I apologize, I just checked one of my zx500s and valeks is correct. Earlier I just checked the schematic-- must have been a misprint, but the one I have does show 100k.
They were originally 100k, then got switched to 100 ohms as part of the V2 update.
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thanks very much guys your replies have been extremely helpful.
I haven't replaced them yet, I just temporarily replaced the amp with an M50 :)
but I will put 100 ohm ones in when I do it, since it is a V2 anyway.
will replace the resistors over the next couple of days and let you know how it goes.
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