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help picking out new subs

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:09 pm
by smokeyand thebandit
Hi guys I was wondering if you could help me choose some new 12" subs for my PG1200.1 amp. I currently am running some 10" shallow mount kickers behind my seats in my truck and they sound alright but I would like some more bass now. I have a ported box for 2 12's and I have already blown 4 mtx thunders that I had laying around. They were single voice coil 4 ohm 300 watts rms max running in parallel. Two only lasted about a week then poof the other two only a couple days. Any way could you help me pick a good match for this amp.
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Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:46 pm
by smokeyand thebandit
If it helps this is the box I have for the 12's. thanks
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Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:25 pm
by todd217
what is your budget? do you know what that box is tuned to?

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:35 pm
by knightrider358
I'd say 2 PG Rsdc 12's svc 8 ohms or dvc 4 ohms and call it a day

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Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:22 pm
by nutxo
knightrider358 wrote:I'd say 2 PG Rsdc 12's svc 8 ohms or dvc 4 ohms and call it a day

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If he cant find those maybe look at some SSA Icons.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:54 am
by smokeyand thebandit
I was looking at jl audio w3 but they have a 3ohm rating so i wasnt sure on those. Then at alpine type r with a 2 ohm rating and wireing in series but those subs didnt look very impressive. I have never wired in series before. What is the preferred method of wireing parrallel or series? I was thinking of dual voice coils this time. I was going to run the amp at 2 ohms.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:00 pm
by stipud
smokeyand thebandit wrote:I was looking at jl audio w3 but they have a 3ohm rating so i wasnt sure on those. Then at alpine type r with a 2 ohm rating and wireing in series but those subs didnt look very impressive. I have never wired in series before. What is the preferred method of wireing parrallel or series? I was thinking of dual voice coils this time. I was going to run the amp at 2 ohms.
Voicecoils can be run in series or parallel, but you should only ever wire woofers in parallel.

And for all intents and purposes, the JL 3 ohm load can be treated like a 4 ohm sub. It's just a nominal rating anyways, and most amps will easily be able to handle the slightly lower impedance.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:33 pm
by kg1961
how did you get 3ohm on a w3 sub? they are 2ohm or 4ohm subs? the w7 or tw5 sub are the only that are 3ohm subs??
v3 mean the third series of them
http://www.jlaudio.com/car-audio-subwoofer-drivers-w3v3

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:33 am
by smokeyand thebandit
Sorry I was looking at the w6 subs @3ohms. But i was wrong on that too, youre right it seems only the w7 is 3ohms. So if i get two dual voice coil subs should i go with 4 or 2 ohms. What is the best way to wire them up so the amp is running @2ohms?

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:39 am
by kg1961
smokeyand thebandit wrote:Sorry I was looking at the w6 subs @3ohms. So if i get two dual voice coil subs should i go with 4 or 2 ohms. What is the best way to wire them up so the amp is running @2ohms?

only the old w6 are dual 6ohm

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:44 am
by smokeyand thebandit
So would the dual 4 ohm be best for that amp? Sorry for the mistake and thanks for the help

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:54 am
by kg1961
smokeyand thebandit wrote:So would the dual 4 ohm be best for that amp? Sorry for the mistake and thanks for the help
the new jl are nice but bigger $$$ i would say the RSDC sub sound about the same and less $$ to buy
what kind of sound are you looking for clean sq boomy or just plain loud?

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:07 am
by smokeyand thebandit
Clean and boomy for Rap and house music.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:17 am
by smokeyand thebandit
Im looking at different wiringdiagrams and it looks like i need the dual 2ohm subs to run the amp at 2 ohms. I need to use a series/parrallel circuit.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:43 am
by lukeman269
smokeyand thebandit wrote:Im looking at different wiringdiagrams and it looks like i need the dual 2ohm subs to run the amp at 2 ohms. I need to use a series/parrallel circuit.
Right you are sir. You will need the dual 2 ohm or single 4 ohm woofers to get the most out of your amp. It will present that 2 ohm load you're looking for when each woofer is wired to 4 ohms and ran parallel together.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:45 am
by lukeman269
I had one of those bassworx ported boxes before as well, they are tuned pretty high. I would say around 40-44 hz or so.


As for putting new subs into that box, you might want to consider a pair of Boston Acoustics G2 woofers. They handle 300 rms and compare the to JL Audio W3's. They are cheaper too. Since your amp pushes 780 rms at 4 ohms and 1200 at 2 ohms, you could always run the Boston G2's at either load. They come in single 4 or dual 4 ohm configurations.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:37 pm
by Bchester6
lukeman269 wrote:I had one of those bassworx ported boxes before as well, they are tuned pretty high. I would say around 40-44 hz or so.


As for putting new subs into that box, you might want to consider a pair of Boston Acoustics G2 woofers. They handle 300 rms and compare the to JL Audio W3's. They are cheaper too. Since your amp pushes 780 rms at 4 ohms and 1200 at 2 ohms, you could always run the Boston G2's at either load. They come in single 4 or dual 4 ohm configurations.
Why not the Boston G3's? i believe 375 watts rms and a great sub for the price...G5's are even better yet.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:53 am
by lukeman269
Bchester6 wrote:
lukeman269 wrote:I had one of those bassworx ported boxes before as well, they are tuned pretty high. I would say around 40-44 hz or so.


As for putting new subs into that box, you might want to consider a pair of Boston Acoustics G2 woofers. They handle 300 rms and compare the to JL Audio W3's. They are cheaper too. Since your amp pushes 780 rms at 4 ohms and 1200 at 2 ohms, you could always run the Boston G2's at either load. They come in single 4 or dual 4 ohm configurations.
Why not the Boston G3's? i believe 375 watts rms and a great sub for the price...G5's are even better yet.
I guess if money isn't an obstacle, G3's are the way to go! I have one in my car right now and love how it sounds.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:44 am
by Bchester6
Then G3's it is!!! Haha. Seriously though, they aren't that much more and for sure can handle the power.... and then some.

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:07 am
by lukeman269
[quote="Bchester6"]Then G3's it is!!! Haha. Seriously though, they aren't that much more and for sure can handle the power.... and then some.[/quote

I think they are around 160 a piece now. Yeah and they sound great ported and sealed! I had one in a 2.3 cubic ft box tuned to 36 hz and it pounded, but I got sick of the boomy bass so I built a 1.1 cubic ft sealed for it and it sounds amazing! Just need a bass cube and carpet on the box and I'm set!

Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:59 pm
by AVICJR
smokeyand thebandit wrote:Im looking at different wiringdiagrams and it looks like i need the dual 2ohm subs to run the amp at 2 ohms. I need to use a series/parrallel circuit.

I have 2 brand new 12" RSdC dual 2 ohm subs that I'd be willing to sell. PM or email if interested, I respond to email quicker....

avicjr at earthlink dot net

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Re: help picking out new subs

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:08 pm
by kg1961
if you want a stupid deal i would sell 2 focal vs 11" subs they need 225 and up and 20 to 40 leter thats .75-1.4 cub

they are super clear let me know
mike

i paid 575 never used them and would sell them for 500 and 1/2 shipping

Re: help picking out new subs

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by doggn8
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