Phoenix Gold Phorum

Just got done looking at the pg website and it says the elite can move as much air as"three normal 12 inch drivers" just curious what pg considers a normal 12 inch woofer

A woofer with roughly 20mm of peak to peak Xmax would be a decent reference point.

By normal he means flea market crap subs that cost about $30 each. Its not what really what I would consider normal...but thats not the point.

If your so stuck on xmax as the main factor, get a RE XXX, it has 54mm ONE WAY.

rc10mike wrote:By normal he means flea market crap subs that cost about $30 each. Its not what really what I would consider normal...but thats not the point.

If your so stuck on xmax as the main factor, get a RE XXX, it has 54mm ONE WAY.

Well seing as I have already used one I will mention that the w3v3 has 26mm of xmax(peak to peak) and funny story about RE everytime I bought one of their products I had bad luck like I bought 2 rex12s from this kid on cl and he had the wires switched on the inside(neg. To a pos. Terminal) didn't say anything to me about it hooked em up to tune em and poof they blew plus I was gonna buy this xxx15 but the old man sold it to someone else as I wa pulling in his driveway ever since then ive had a bad taste in my mouth from RE Audio

Another thing you have to consider is effective piston size or "SD". The more xmax a sub has; generally the surround is much bigger, this decreases SD.

Bigred41291 wrote:

rc10mike wrote:By normal he means flea market crap subs that cost about $30 each. Its not what really what I would consider normal...but thats not the point.

If your so stuck on xmax as the main factor, get a RE XXX, it has 54mm ONE WAY.

Well seing as I have already used one I will mention that the w3v3 has 26mm of xmax(peak to peak) and funny story about RE everytime I bought one of their products I had bad luck like I bought 2 rex12s from this kid on cl and he had the wires switched on the inside(neg. To a pos. Terminal) didn't say anything to me about it hooked em up to tune em and poof they blew plus I was gonna buy this xxx15 but the old man sold it to someone else as I wa pulling in his driveway ever since then ive had a bad taste in my mouth from RE Audio

Not to get too off topic, but getting a bad taste for a brand because of bad CL deals doesn't make sense. I'd be more put off by CL and idiots then I would RE Audio.

Yes I know but just can't bring myself to buy anything of theirs yet

Re audio went to crap as soon as scott left it, and started up fi. Definately not the same company, but yes I see the piont being made.