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 Post subject: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:12 am 
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Hi all, long time no post but I've started a new install and come accross a small problem! I'm wanting to mount 2 ms2250 end to end (same as an ms1000 would be) and obviously can't use my shrouds. I'm struggling to find a suitable fan(s) that can fit snuggly and compactly under the terminals, cross flow fans seem too big and room is very tight..

any ideas anyone?

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this is what I hope I can achieve but i have to consider cooling, they won't be doing anything like full power, maybe a 3rd at best but still...

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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:06 pm 
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can you cut the center out of the area under the amps? Looks like it would buy you another 1/2"-3/4" that you could set the fan down into a little further. If you can't get a cross flow fan to work I am not sure how you could get anything else to work.



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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:31 pm 
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This was from many years ago, but my MS1000 never had any issues with heat...

http://www.soundbuggy.com/Eric/Car%20Audio/my_car_stereo/index.html

And the fan cooling was pretty low profile.



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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:55 am 
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tried a similar set up to how Eric had it, bought 3x 80x80x10mm fans but they were next to useless, maybe a rubbish fan but they hardly moved any air! pics below show the channels I routed out to allow air flow under amp board (10mm deep approx)

I also ordered an 8" cross flow fan but when the package arrived the fan had been stolen so can't try that option right now.. I really want to use the ms2250 amps as they are perfect for my system but everything is compromised one way or another!

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Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
AX204A + AX406A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:24 am 
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more updates! managed to buy 2x Stinger cross flow fans, the 8" ones, they are surprisingly compact and fit right in front of amp where I wanted to put one in the first place. bery effective and only need one.

my next question is, how does the fan control in OE ms2250 work? does it give a variable output or fixed? on full the Stingers can be quite noisy!



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Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
AX204A + AX406A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:08 am 
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I am pretty sure its just an on/off thing and not variable but its been so long I can't remember. They make some neat temp activated fan controllers now if you do a search. Some are not cheap like the steve mead piece but its cool for sure and 3 speed programmable.



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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
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If you want speed variable (just use a potentiometer) or temp controlled then you'll need to use a rasberrypie with some temperature sensors. You can now buy a rasberrypie for 6-10 doll hairs.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:18 am 

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I have been working on getting the finishing stuff for my install. Thanks for doing the testing and posting here. You answered my questions.


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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:57 am 
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I ditched this idea in the end as it was just not effective enough, went with the Stinger cross flow fan.

I made a cover to go over it so the I could rest the wiring on it, this was my best option!

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Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
AX204A + AX406A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
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 Post subject: Re: MS2250 + MS1000 cooling solutions?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:05 am 
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for such a slim opening it was really almost your only choice. They make some neat thermostatic options for them now to control the heat.



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