Let's see your stash
that's a monster on an avatar!! hope your collection of pg is as big
Ti1 headunit (unique)
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
- martinkruit
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Sorry, on the car audio forum i'm visiting every day it does not look that big.
http://forum.showyoursound.nl/default.asp
I've changed it now.
And my collection off PG is not that big.
I will start to look for all the pictures
@Stipud, je spreekt Nederlamds (altans je schrijft Nederlands) waar kom je vandaan??
http://forum.showyoursound.nl/default.asp
I've changed it now.
And my collection off PG is not that big.
I will start to look for all the pictures
@Stipud, je spreekt Nederlamds (altans je schrijft Nederlands) waar kom je vandaan??
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Oke, i will start my list.
As the most off us i have as possible used PG cables
Speakercables,............................................ Interlinks................................Connectors and so on
Back in 1992 i started with one PG MS275
This was my first contact with Phoenix Gold, i sounded great for me.
So on the next holliday i went to Florida because the amps were 1/3 off the Dutch price and bought met two other MS275's
After that the back off my car looked like this.
When i stopped with this car and put away the amps temporaly, they where stolen.
In 2005 i started car audio again and bought a used MAC200
Wich i still use to test speaker boxes.
Also i bought a ZX Ti 500.4
Not the right picture but pretty close
Which we rebuild to a Phoenix Gold ZX Ti 500.2 with embedded Musical Fidelity Tube Pre Amp.
We did some modifications Tubes are working on +/- 35v
the are JJ type E88CC. We deleted the Filter section Less = More principle. (Modifications are done by Bertje (12VHifi.nl) Also a member on this Forum.
The sound off this project is great.
At this moment building the car off my wife and this is what will be in the trunk.
A PG M50 special edition (instead off white he is chrome with original PG printing)
A PG M44 special edition (instead off white he is chrome with original PG printing)
A PG EQ215 special edition (instead off white he is chrome with original PG printing)
I also own a Bass CUBE, a Carver Cathedral, Carver Image Enhancer and a Audiop Control 1.3 oct equalizer
As the most off us i have as possible used PG cables
Speakercables,............................................ Interlinks................................Connectors and so on
Back in 1992 i started with one PG MS275
This was my first contact with Phoenix Gold, i sounded great for me.
So on the next holliday i went to Florida because the amps were 1/3 off the Dutch price and bought met two other MS275's
After that the back off my car looked like this.
When i stopped with this car and put away the amps temporaly, they where stolen.
In 2005 i started car audio again and bought a used MAC200
Wich i still use to test speaker boxes.
Also i bought a ZX Ti 500.4
Not the right picture but pretty close
Which we rebuild to a Phoenix Gold ZX Ti 500.2 with embedded Musical Fidelity Tube Pre Amp.
We did some modifications Tubes are working on +/- 35v
the are JJ type E88CC. We deleted the Filter section Less = More principle. (Modifications are done by Bertje (12VHifi.nl) Also a member on this Forum.
The sound off this project is great.
At this moment building the car off my wife and this is what will be in the trunk.
A PG M50 special edition (instead off white he is chrome with original PG printing)
A PG M44 special edition (instead off white he is chrome with original PG printing)
A PG EQ215 special edition (instead off white he is chrome with original PG printing)
I also own a Bass CUBE, a Carver Cathedral, Carver Image Enhancer and a Audiop Control 1.3 oct equalizer
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seandiguer wrote:Very Very Cool. But can someone explain to be how he combined the tubes into the zx500?
Easy, he bypassed the crossover input board that sits on top of the main amp board.
He had to custom design the tube circuits to run off +- 35 volts the amps main drive section runs off.
So to recap he removed a large PCB that sits over the main board, so the amp is now a straight four channel amp with no crossover or bass boost. Pretty clean approach, lots of work though.
The tube circuit could have been powered by a voltage doubler or tripler power circuit if need be, the power supply could have been modded with the needed rectifiers and caps to make the high voltage. But I think he was trying to keep it simple and audiophile clean so he went with 35 volts on the tubes.
Not a easy task but a task of love for sure.....C
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@Wakeup, it SOUNDS GREAT .
The pre amp is a design from Musical Fidelity its the X10, but modified.
@1moreamp, at the left site of the amp there is an ventilation hole, so the air passes the tubes first and then it flows directly over the heatsink.
And you explination is right. I'm now searching for building a power suply that can deliver +/- 70 volts. Then the amp will sound even better.
@Mr Tibbs, you mean the M50 and M44? They are chromed and printed again by Phoenix Gold.
@eyesofra, your totaly right
@Stipud, vandaar, maar we praten hier beter engels, anders begrijpen ze er niets van.
The pre amp is a design from Musical Fidelity its the X10, but modified.
@1moreamp, at the left site of the amp there is an ventilation hole, so the air passes the tubes first and then it flows directly over the heatsink.
And you explination is right. I'm now searching for building a power suply that can deliver +/- 70 volts. Then the amp will sound even better.
@Mr Tibbs, you mean the M50 and M44? They are chromed and printed again by Phoenix Gold.
@eyesofra, your totaly right
@Stipud, vandaar, maar we praten hier beter engels, anders begrijpen ze er niets van.
- martinkruit
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I will make two showcases overhere in the install section.
Meanwhile you can see my car in this showcase (not fully updated)
http://www.showyoursound.nl/Public/Show ... sp?id=3028
It is a Mercedes Bens Van - V-Class 220CDI (170 Hp - 360 Nm)
Meanwhile you can see my car in this showcase (not fully updated)
http://www.showyoursound.nl/Public/Show ... sp?id=3028
It is a Mercedes Bens Van - V-Class 220CDI (170 Hp - 360 Nm)
unbelievable you most have the best collection ever. I want to know if u have or know anyone with a fan shroud for a ms 2250 looks like u have two complete units. I had mine stolen about 8 years ago and i just got it back but the shroud kit was gone. any help would be great since Phoenix Gold is no help these days.
Morning martinkruit,
try looking into a simple voltage doubler tied to the toroids windings used for the 35 volt out. I am sure you can get this to double or triple in voltage fairly easy, by using a set of high speed diodes and a few caps.
The other way is to hand wire more wire turns on the toroid to get separate windings to do the job like I have seen on PPI/Butler amps.
A very nice effort Thanks you for the inside look, Always love to see new engineering
try looking into a simple voltage doubler tied to the toroids windings used for the 35 volt out. I am sure you can get this to double or triple in voltage fairly easy, by using a set of high speed diodes and a few caps.
The other way is to hand wire more wire turns on the toroid to get separate windings to do the job like I have seen on PPI/Butler amps.
A very nice effort Thanks you for the inside look, Always love to see new engineering
I built /modded the Ti450 from Martin. It was a lot of work, I also replaced the opamps at the frontend to LM4562. The gains are turned fully down (could be removed also..).
The pre-amp from Musical Fidelity X10D has original a power supply of +30 and -30V, so it runs fine on the +/-35V from the PG. The original MF has a gain from 1-1,1x. but I did it to 2x.
Next EMMA SQ competition season maybe the new European champion pure passive ...(of niet Martin... )
Rob
12V Hifi
The pre-amp from Musical Fidelity X10D has original a power supply of +30 and -30V, so it runs fine on the +/-35V from the PG. The original MF has a gain from 1-1,1x. but I did it to 2x.
Next EMMA SQ competition season maybe the new European champion pure passive ...(of niet Martin... )
Rob
12V Hifi
I also want to listen to the amp of martin, maybe at a next sq meeting in nl or be I hope
I'm from belgium, my components:
- PG zx450
- PG zx500
- PG eq230
- PG basscube
this drives:
- DLS ur6s (MP 7 series set on his way )
- JL audio 15w3v2
I hope that I can compete with martin, the futher will say that
I'm from belgium, my components:
- PG zx450
- PG zx500
- PG eq230
- PG basscube
this drives:
- DLS ur6s (MP 7 series set on his way )
- JL audio 15w3v2
I hope that I can compete with martin, the futher will say that
holy wow tristan. i had to change my pants twice to look at those pictures. That had to have been an all day affair laying all of those bad boys down like that.
this thread is making me worthless in class right now.
this thread is making me worthless in class right now.
2003 Nissan 350Z
Alpine INA-W900
Alpine Type R 6.5 Comps
Phoenix Gold RSdc 102 (2)
Phoenix Gold X200.4
Box by www.zenclosures.com
Alpine INA-W900
Alpine Type R 6.5 Comps
Phoenix Gold RSdc 102 (2)
Phoenix Gold X200.4
Box by www.zenclosures.com
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what about having it re silk screaned? i don't think pg can do this anymore?martinkruit wrote:Just won at Ebay a nice M100
off course this will be chromed like the M60 and M44 i already own.
All 3 amps will be modified to sound even better.
Ti1 headunit (unique)
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!