Phoenix Gold Phorum

I've been in audio since the 80s car and home and I'm a true high end audiophile. mainly Tube/Hybrid home audio.
I just installed my first phoenix gold product, which is the RSd 300.4 amp, which is replacing my zed audio (planet audio), which replaced my diamond audio and so on. I have to say this is truly what an amp should be. Clean, powerful,dynamic,hits hard. It gets out of the way.

Oh and another thing. These amps must truly be underated on the power output. 48watts x 4 into 4ohms. seems more like a 75watt x 4 ohm.
This is the first amp that I've been able to set the frequencies flat from the H/U and the RSd does a great job.

Solid little buggers, aren't they?

CEA-2006 RMS ratings are very restrictive, so yes they are very underrated in practice, when playing music.

Solid indeed! Theses should be more popular than they are. Truly a hidden gem..

stipud wrote:Solid little buggers, aren't they?

CEA-2006 RMS ratings are very restrictive, so yes they are very underrated in practice, when playing music.

RSdCrazy wrote:Solid indeed! Theses should be more popular than they are. Truly a hidden gem..

The bargain basement price (grey market), the looks and the "not made in the USA" turn a lot of people off these amps, it seems.

Well the retail price on the RSd amps is right were it should be and its great for us that we can get such a fine amp for 50-60% off of retail, but these amps compete with any other amp on the market, with the exception of maybe some hi end DLS, or Helix, Brax amps

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:

RSdCrazy wrote:Solid indeed! Theses should be more popular than they are. Truly a hidden gem..

The bargain basement price (grey market), the looks and the "not made in the USA" turn a lot of people off these amps, it seems.

I got my RSd 300.4 from AMAZON. I hope they're an authorized online retailer

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:

RSdCrazy wrote:Solid indeed! Theses should be more popular than they are. Truly a hidden gem..

The bargain basement price (grey market), the looks and the "not made in the USA" turn a lot of people off these amps, it seems.

RSdCrazy wrote:I got my RSd 300.4 from AMAZON. I hope they're an authorized online retailer

I don't think Amazon directly sells these amps. I think it's members in their store that do. So that independent retailer that sells through Amazon may or may not be authorized although I would think it unlikely.

And even if they are authorized brick and mortar retailers they more than likely are not authorized to sell the products on the internet.

PG doesn't have ANY authorized internet dealers.


its is a shame those amps didnt catch on. i own 6 RSD amps in various flavors and installed dozens more. the ONLY complaint i have with them is the wire terminations. and thats just nit picking. they are great amps

My amp was not filled through another store that amazon represents.
My amp was sold and fulfilled through amazon direct.

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:

RSdCrazy wrote:I got my RSd 300.4 from AMAZON. I hope they're an authorized online retailer

I don't think Amazon directly sells these amps. I think it's members in their store that do. So that independent retailer that sells through Amazon may or may not be authorized although I would think it unlikely.

According to PG website they do have dealers and authorized internet dealers. Thats why I was comfortable buying from amazon direct as they themselves don't sell stuff they're not allowed to.

Bfowler wrote:PG doesn't have ANY authorized internet dealers.


its is a shame those amps didnt catch on. i own 6 RSD amps in various flavors and installed dozens more. the ONLY complaint i have with them is the wire terminations. and thats just nit picking. they are great amps

Take a look

http://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-RSD300-4- ... 282&sr=8-1

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:

RSdCrazy wrote:I got my RSd 300.4 from AMAZON. I hope they're an authorized online retailer

I don't think Amazon directly sells these amps. I think it's members in their store that do. So that independent retailer that sells through Amazon may or may not be authorized although I would think it unlikely.

You're right, that one is sold directly by Amazon. Now, whether or not PG will uphold the warranty on amps sold by Amazon or not, I don't know.

Well like I said. I don't think Amazon itself sells anything their not authorized to do. They're not in the habit of the grey market merchandise also when I looked on PG website for dealer locations they stated they had local and online retailers. (I didn't actually look them up) but I'm sure their authorized. With an amp like this since it worked out of the box I doubt it will need serviced...I really like this amp. It reminds me of the good ole quality amps of the 80s. As long as PG doesn't go out of business and offers a line of this quality I'm sticking with PG.

PaulC

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:You're right, that one is sold directly by Amazon. Now, whether or not PG will uphold the warranty on amps sold by Amazon or not, I don't know.

RSdCrazy wrote:Well like I said. I don't think Amazon itself sells anything their not authorized to do. They're not in the habit of the grey market merchandise also when I looked on PG website for dealer locations they stated they had local and online retailers. (I didn't actually look them up) but I'm sure their authorized. With an amp like this since it worked out of the box I doubt it will need serviced...I really like this amp. It reminds me of the good ole quality amps of the 80s. As long as PG doesn't go out of business and offers a line of this quality I'm sticking with PG.

PaulC

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:You're right, that one is sold directly by Amazon. Now, whether or not PG will uphold the warranty on amps sold by Amazon or not, I don't know.

with aamp backing them up now....i dont see them going out of business!

I have not looked and would almost gurantee that amazon is NOT an authorized dealer. I thought they WERE THE DEFINITION OF GREY MARKET which is what no dealer wants to be part of. I am pretty sure that they will sell anything they get their hands on authorized or not.........

Hmm. Well I've never heard that and I guess the only way to find out would be to check with PG. I'm good though.

ttocs wrote:I have not looked and would almost gurantee that amazon is NOT an authorized dealer. I thought they WERE THE DEFINITION OF GREY MARKET which is what no dealer wants to be part of. I am pretty sure that they will sell anything they get their hands on authorized or not.........

Who cares, hes got his amp with no hitches and he is very satisfied. Isnt that what counts?

Amen!!

oldskoolmseriesfan wrote:Who cares, hes got his amp with no hitches and he is very satisfied. Isnt that what counts?

Wow, you all were beating the sh*t out of that dead horse!! lol

But anyways, I had the 300.4 and it rocked! It was pushing TWO sets of RSD 6.5 components on the front left and right and THREE RSD 10's on the rear left and right! The ONLY problem I had was when I tried to bump real hard for a long time it would heat up on me. I sold it and upgraded to the 500.4 and haven't looked back since!

I was wondering about the quality of these, have a 300.4 but the footprint is too big for my install, @ least I know its a good amp.

you guys missed the amazing amazon sale on these a while backk

i got the 300.4 for $108 SHIPPED!!!!