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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:43 pm 
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I am again waiting on parts so I decided to use the time to start the next project I have had in mind. I wanted to install a dual battery volt meter and got one that I thought would fit in my cig lighter. It didn't fit so after some thought I decided this was a great time to pull out the handibot and combine it with some other things I wanted to do. I wanted to have an indicator on the dash for the line lock and battery isolator as well and had a small spot where the defrost switch and headlight switch use to be to put it all. I figured out a design I liked and I must be learning something as I only had one piece I cut incorrectly and after a quick adjustment the 2nd was perfect. The trim ring and the front plate will get mounted in the dash, the back plate will holds the volt meter and the EL lighting strips so it can be removable if needed to replace later.
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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:49 pm 

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ttocs wrote:
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I finally got it all installed.
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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:25 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:33 pm 
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got a pic in the daylight finally of the switch boxes. I have to thank eric with his crazy civic for hooking me up with some pg 8 awg wire
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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:07 pm 

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ttocs wrote:
got a pic in the daylight finally of the switch boxes. I have to thank eric with his crazy civic for hooking me up with some pg 8 awg wire
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So how much longer till this things done? Or have you started having issues again?


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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:27 am 

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lilviper wrote:
ttocs wrote:
got a pic in the daylight finally of the switch boxes. I have to thank eric with his crazy civic for hooking me up with some pg 8 awg wire
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So how much longer till this things done? Or have you started having issues again?


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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:45 am 
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nothing good new because as usual if it isn't one thing its the other. Sit and listen when you have a few about how my hard drive crashing threw everything into chaos... My laptop is barely 3 yrs old(no extended warranty) and the hard drive started to die. I went to get it replaced right about the time I was finally finishing all the wiring crap above and was looking forward to starting it and getting it on the ground and rolling. I have still been in the habit of hooking up my laptop to the ecu every time I do start it because I am still datalogging and its in the learning phase so it was about now I realized this was another program I needed to reload. So I did it, hooked up to the ecu and got a error because the ecu was V4 and the software now was v5. It took some time to figure out how to download the tune from the ecu, reflash the firmware and then reload the tune. I got through all that and then started it up but the timing was way off, 15 degrees retarded for some reason. I went to fix that and noticed the fuel pressure was not right and decided to check the filters just cause. Ever have one of those moments were you keep thinking WTF louder louder and louder in your head(or out loud) 3-4 times as it keeps getting worse? This was one of those times as I poured the fuel out of the tank side filter and then opened it up to see this.
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I was glad I went with dual filters before/after the pump as the post filter pump was clean so it looks like this one did its job. All I can guess is its 25 yrs of bad gas crap as well as some other stuff from when it was out collected and this is what I got. I had tried to clean the tank out prior to reinstalling it but short of banging the sides with the hole facing down and trying to vacuum it out there isn't much I could do. So i said screw it and ordered a new tank. The tank got her and I went to install it yesterday and got the new fuel level sender mounted, as well as the hat and then went to pull the fuel tank vapor vent check valve over and of course the little nipple that the vac line attaches to broke off. ITs just a stupid little piece of plastic that allows air into the tank when fuel is sucked out and has a check valve that will keep the gas from escaping if its rolled, no big deal right?

Now if you are not familiar with the 94/95 mustang they are bastard years for the stangs with the last 2 years of the 302 and obd1 ignition and the first year of the new body style. Because of these factors there are a few parts that are specific to those years and now generally out of production and this stupid little valve is one of them. I have been on a quest for the last 24 hrs to figure something out that will prevent me from having to drop the tank ever again as its a PIA with the diffuser I made. I found a GM version locally that is close but its .2" diameter bigger. It goes through a thick gasket and I think with a little grease and enough pressure it could be forced in but I am never getting it out and not sure if it will hurt it. I found a ford version on line that was good in mustangs up till 89/90 but I can't find any measurements on it to see what the difference is but it looks the same... The final option is that I drilled out the part where the nipple was and then cut a piece off of a vac line coupler so it can slide into the hole. I am pretty sure with the right epoxy it would be fine but again the question now is what will I pay to keep from having to drop the tank and do this crap again in the next 20 yrs? As of right now the older ford version is ordered, the bigger GM version is plan b and option #3 is the epoxy.



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 Post subject: Re: momstang rebuild begins.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:26 pm 

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ttocs wrote:
nothing good new because as usual if it isn't one thing its the other. Sit and listen when you have a few about how my hard drive crashing threw everything into chaos... My laptop is barely 3 yrs old(no extended warranty) and the hard drive started to die. I went to get it replaced right about the time I was finally finishing all the wiring crap above and was looking forward to starting it and getting it on the ground and rolling. I have still been in the habit of hooking up my laptop to the ecu every time I do start it because I am still datalogging and its in the learning phase so it was about now I realized this was another program I needed to reload. So I did it, hooked up to the ecu and got a error because the ecu was V4 and the software now was v5. It took some time to figure out how to download the tune from the ecu, reflash the firmware and then reload the tune. I got through all that and then started it up but the timing was way off, 15 degrees retarded for some reason. I went to fix that and noticed the fuel pressure was not right and decided to check the filters just cause. Ever have one of those moments were you keep thinking WTF louder louder and louder in your head(or out loud) 3-4 times as it keeps getting worse? This was one of those times as I poured the fuel out of the tank side filter and then opened it up to see this.
Image
I was glad I went with dual filters before/after the pump as the post filter pump was clean so it looks like this one did its job. All I can guess is its 25 yrs of bad gas crap as well as some other stuff from when it was out collected and this is what I got. I had tried to clean the tank out prior to reinstalling it but short of banging the sides with the hole facing down and trying to vacuum it out there isn't much I could do. So i said screw it and ordered a new tank. The tank got her and I went to install it yesterday and got the new fuel level sender mounted, as well as the hat and then went to pull the fuel tank vapor vent check valve over and of course the little nipple that the vac line attaches to broke off. ITs just a stupid little piece of plastic that allows air into the tank when fuel is sucked out and has a check valve that will keep the gas from escaping if its rolled, no big deal right?

Now if you are not familiar with the 94/95 mustang they are bastard years for the stangs with the last 2 years of the 302 and obd1 ignition and the first year of the new body style. Because of these factors there are a few parts that are specific to those years and now generally out of production and this stupid little valve is one of them. I have been on a quest for the last 24 hrs to figure something out that will prevent me from having to drop the tank ever again as its a PIA with the diffuser I made. I found a GM version locally that is close but its .2" diameter bigger. It goes through a thick gasket and I think with a little grease and enough pressure it could be forced in but I am never getting it out and not sure if it will hurt it. I found a ford version on line that was good in mustangs up till 89/90 but I can't find any measurements on it to see what the difference is but it looks the same... The final option is that I drilled out the part where the nipple was and then cut a piece off of a vac line coupler so it can slide into the hole. I am pretty sure with the right epoxy it would be fine but again the question now is what will I pay to keep from having to drop the tank and do this crap again in the next 20 yrs? As of right now the older ford version is ordered, the bigger GM version is plan b and option #3 is the epoxy.
I wonder if there are any 94/95s around here in the junkyard.


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