Dale H wrote:Going to Larry Landis

re-birth for $275 shipping included

sounds very high....ive had full blown out ms amps fixed for 125 bucks from chris lewis....that amp should not cost anything over that especially since its built even simpler then the pg amps...did you send it off yet?

hey who are you sending it to for service...???

Small world- Chris did a review of the MS2250 for one of the car audio mags back in the day. I have a copy of it. lol....i actually have that issue also in a box god knows where in my house....but in that mag review he gives the 2250 the full once over and he details the small design short comings ...

If not, could someone send me contact info for chris at pyramid audio? Im not looking to mod the amp, just restore it to original condition. Theres plenty of power in the stock MS2250 for me. i know there is plenty of power in the stock config with the 2250....but by default the way its built by pg...

send it to chris at pyramid audio for your tune ups....forget pg its not worth it...you can mod your 2250 while he is at it.

it all depends on how old of an amp are we talking about....first run 2125 or 10 year re-release....if its a 10 year one you dont need to do anything to it but drop it in....first run it just depends on how the amp is internally i wouldnt pay for then 350 for one because thats the going rate...if yo...

i didnt even know people still used tang bang and vifa's....i guess somethings never change.

guys..... i've used the excellent rsd65cs i my car back home and just got a new ride here and lookin for some comps around " ebay " $500 :wink: i loved the rsd but now i wanna move up a little cause wanting more definition in the midrange and across the band. there are a few in my list no...

just to chime in also....that sub would be a huge waste of money if all you have is an m50 to throw on it.

To beat a dead horse.... thanks for this- all i was ever talking about are the c2k lines and the heavy 4 channels and the giant stereo amps they got....never did i bring in the other lines i dont know anything about those except they always looked like the old m series amps....i was just talking ab...

Well, none of us have been able to get our hands on any Roadsters (except that lucky bastard Ahsmo), because they've all been pre-sold already. So I'm not quite sure you're correct on that one ;) well i will believe it when i actually see it...but since its nothing but talk who is to say....right :...

Dale , just be aware these amps are PIGS on juice even while at idle. Yeah I am thinking this might be a factor. Do you know if this thing can pull more than 100 amps? with this in mind I may have trouble if I matched it with a power 300. on full tilt these can yank 150 amps in their sleep...they h...

Thank you Brian. I was trying to come up with a Bananas vs Apples response, but I like the way you put it better :lol: Theburb, with all due respect, you didn't make your point very clear. If all you were complaining about is the lack of insane competition amps, then I can agree on that. I personal...

hehe, but when you say something on this board like "PG amps aren't what they used to be..zapco is better" that's like going into a catholic church and telling them "Islam is a better religion..i wont go into details why..but look it has more members" you are going to illicit so...

it cracked because it was near the engine heat...brand has nothing to do with that....a cheap one will perform exactly the same as any other

hey if you work for pg kudos....but with that aside i mentioned earlier that i wasnt going to get into a circuit by circuit argument on why the c2k line is superior it just is....i also talked about how pg makes good amps but right at the point where they peak out thats where zap really and truly s...

i can see what their power ratings are on the website...this thread went no where pretty fast. using the logic you just used hifonics amps are better then zapco's :shock: come on man we all have common sense here and i would like to think that you know exactly what im talking about....im not just t...

so I have yet to see a really thought out post explaining why Zapco is better than PG, have I missed something? hey if you work for pg kudos....but with that aside i mentioned earlier that i wasnt going to get into a circuit by circuit argument on why the c2k line is superior it just is....i also t...

they are decent but brass is brass....just snag a 4 dollar no name its all the same...i like the rectangle holders over the round ones because they are easier to change and they mount cleaner if you ask me.

the foam should be fine....but it you are worried you could always just give it a quick coat of silicone...thats what i do when i get a sub that has questionable foam on it....never failed me yet

Come on Tom, you should know by now, Price determines if it's superior. :roll: come on now miss me with that bullshit...i was helping to build pg spl battle cars when the company first came into the market....when the rest of the nation didnt even know what the fuck phoenix gold was... im not downi...

Maybe the question you should be answering for us is; what does the C2K line offer that the new PG lines don't? out the box the zaps walk all over the pg line...i wont even get into comparing them because pg is not building their amps to compete in that world....if they did then maybe i would be ab...

Sound is subjective, I am sure other people here can shed more light on that particular quality. I happen to LOVE the Ryval subs, but for my own peculiar reasons involving musical taste. I know Gary Springgay has tested Ryval components vs. coax recently, he's a good source, should be out in PAS ma...

where to start? First off: PG will NEVER produce some Korean "your name here" crap. Period. ALL of our gear, including the new Ryval amps and speakers has been vetted by our engineers, most of whom built the stuff you refer to from "back in the day". Not just legacy engineers, d...

im not worried about the amps....i came to terms long ago that pg will never be shit again in the car audio world....but im just trying to find some info on the ryval coax's and stuff... What do you base that on? The amplifiers have not changed at all from their heyday. Hell, RSD is probably the cl...