I agree. I like the additional fill. Whenever I turn the fader all the way to the front, I don't really like the overall sound as much - sounds more 2 dimensional then. However I do prefer the fronts to be louder than the rears to give the impression of facing the musicians, with the rears giving th...

hmm, I thought I was already bitten. I've been into high-end 'home' audio since the 70's and i've heard some fabulous home systems, but so far I haven't heard another car system that sounded as good as mine. Louder yes, but not as musically clean and accurate; but then, i don't know very many people...

How do they compromise the front stage if they have been upgraded to the same quality as the fronts.

Actually you should here my system. People think the fronts are amped.

Might as well leave em hooked up I guess.

Why would anybody Not want the rear speakers unless they were compromising something else?

They don't give you actual imaging but I like the spacial sound of being surrounded by the mids & highs.

That's reminds me though; if I were to disconnect my rears, would the fronts receive more power or would I just be using only half the HU's power?

OK, I think I see where you're coming from. An Orion amp rated at 2 x 1/4w huh? Well maybe everyone knew what the other was making but that rating and the one in my manual are not true ratings and were intentionally misrepresented. Although that is technically a lie, I do see the spirit in which it ...

Much thanks guys! That's interesting... I've heard about these cheater amps. Athletes lie about steroid use, and amp manufacturers lie about wattage. So like many sporting events, it's not really about playing the game and the spirit of competition - it's all about winning. It's not about being the ...

This has been chewing at me for a while and I need to know. The manual specs says the continuous output power is; Into 4ohms stereo @ 12.5 vdc (IASCA/USAC) 18 x 4 Into 4ohms stereo @ 14.4 vdc 75 x 4 This is a little scary cuz whenever I listen to the system with the engine off, it will very soon dro...

If the 500.4 you have is rated the same as the Ti, then its 60

Well if weirdo is not around then I'll just add something from a recent experience. When I was getting my 4awg power/ground kit from a reputable shop in my area, the guy asks what the amp is rated for and says whatever fuse it's rated for, they [the shop] alway go a bit above. He say "for examp...

Yeah, don't wait till its finished to take pics!
We all enjoy seeing the carnage of work in progress.

By the way, as you can see, I'm pretty new around here as well.
I've discovered this site to be a great source of knowledge and advice from a good bunch of guys.

And yeah! Welcome!

twisted wrote:

MORTIS wrote:What is that PG amp on the floor in the above pics?
I don't recognize that one. Anybody have some good pics of it?

that is the TI elite components x-over

Oh, I see... not an amp!
I did think it had rather unusually beefy looking caps inside.

What is that PG amp on the floor in the above pics?
I don't recognize that one. Anybody have some good pics of it?

Man you guys have some serious history with this stuff.
I don't really have anything to offer this thread in the way of installs, good or bad, yet I'm probably older than most of you.

Although I do find this 'Worst' installs thread more entertaining than the good ones. Keep it coming

Looks like quite a bit of power in there.
3 10's... That's gotta pound!
Lot of weight to carry around too.

Hey, the harder those 10's work, the more air they will push across the amps to keep 'em cool. Reciprocated self cooling. lol

Nice work!

OK, that's what I was hoping you'd say. I can live with that I guess. However, with the fan running every time you turn on the HU, its likely to be the first thing to wear out in the amp. You're right though, it would be better if it was smart enough to run only when things heated up. Thanks again f...

What! "It would be nice if the fan controller was smart enough to only turn on when you are playing music."
Are you saying the fan runs all the time, even when you're not playing music? Even when the HU is off while the car is running?

Much thanks Stipud! I appreciate the time you've taken to reply in this thread. I will try to apply as much of your suggestions as I am able. I generally ran my head unit volume around half way while the Clarion gains were at max. I probably should have gone for the 10" tubes, as they would lik...

^ I’m sure you know more about this than I do. It is odd though – I got the Ti to replace my Clarion APA4162 which was 40rms x 4 @4ohms, and I’ve hooked up the Ti the same way and figured I’d be able get more sound pressure with the Ti. I ran the Clarion with the gains at max for years and the amp p...

Thanks Stipud I'm probably using terms too loosely here. I realize it doesn't affect the 'bass boost' feature in the amp. Since I'm using all 4 channels set on LP to power 2 DVC subs, I intended to use the LPL to attenuate the bass up or down a little to suit different recordings. The amp is therefo...

Thanks guys! Joyride, i believe you're right that the lpl adjusts bass boost, or as the manual puts it, lp only. It's intended as a remote sub volume level. I just wasn't sure if it effects all 4 ch if all are set to lp. Hosehead, i just got it installed yesterday and haven't had a chance to make an...

1; I'm planning on using the lpl44 with the amp and I know it adjusts input sensitivity/gain but was wondering how it works in conjunction with the sensitivity control on the amp. For example, If I were to set the amp gain controls to max and then hook up the lpl with it set below max, would the gai...

More amp porn for you PG pervs! I thought I'd take some pics of the internals while I had it open to give the inside case a thin coat of rustproofing. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l88/MORTIS-1/P1020917.jpg http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l88/MORTIS-1/P1020919.jpg http://i94.photobucket.com/al...

Hello there 'C' I don't actually have the Ti installed yet. Haven't had much time plus I had to get some 4awg power/ground wire and a few other bits. Only had 8awg in my current setup. So far I've only given the Ti a couple coats of wax and will apply a thin coat of rustproof to the inside of the ca...

I hope this isn't a repost. I found this site where the guy is providing a down loadable XLS that calculates your 'Gain Control, Current Draw, and Power Wire requirements. You just enter specifics on your total system rms and your vehicle charging system and it calculates recommendations. Assuming i...