SO SICK OF EBAY/PAYPAL

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:26 pm

i just dont get it, a person PAYS with their verified info, and even has the product in hand, as I type, will not leave feedback, good or bad,respond to emails, yet paypal continues to "HOLD" my funds, THEY Are the scammers, i bet they do this on a daily basis for 1-50million dollars in items sold, and they collect the interest-BASTARDS- I cant go into a store, take the product home, break it, play with it,decide if i really want it, and then go ahead and go back to store and THEN pay for it-so, if you guys can buy my items here when i lists them, ud really be helping me out, the aggrevation and stress it causes , doesnt even seem worth it at this point-has anybody else had this experience????

gkitching · Post by **gkitching** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:13 pm

I haven't. But have heard this often enough that I'm expecting it to happen to me. I can't say I understand why. Aside from deliberate scamming like you said. I can say it is total BS!

The best 'e-gay fucking' is a seller CAN NOT leave negative feedback anymore. For what ever reason! WTF?!

I had a guy use the 'buy it now' feature of my auction for my P9. Then didn't pay. Kept telling me it's coming it's coming. Finally after waiting the established 10days for payment, I launched a claim against him and relisted the item. After 10 more days the dispute was closed and I gave him a 'non-paying bidder strike'. Then I went to leave him negative feedback and there wasn't even an option for it.!?

Then outta nowhere, E-bay lifted the strike against him.

And would not tell me why or how they could do that. Only gave me some BS story about their study on how the fear of negative feedback was keeping people from buying.

So feedback ratings are totally useless.?!

FFFFFFFUCKING AAAAAAAAAASSSSHOOOLLLLESSSSSS!

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:38 pm

unreal, i feel a little better now, b/c the buyer just left 100percent positive feedback-but yeah, i dont get them anymore, buyer/seller both should have the option to leave negative or posi feeddback- i think the ceos at ebay and paypal are in "opposite land", imagine Homer Simpson as their ceo, "um, land of chocolate!"

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:51 pm

gkitching wrote:Only gave me some BS story about their study on how the fear of negative feedback was keeping people from buying.

There are only two reasons to fear negative feedback (as a buyer):

1. You're buying from a dishonest seller
2. You're a dishonest buyer

It all comes down to people being real big fucking assholes that are only out for themselves, trying to fuck anyone, anytime for anything.

I hate people.

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:05 pm

a guy back in october contacted me about 1 of my ti1200.1s from a craigslist ad i posted after noone here wanted it at the time- long story short , he talked me into listing it on the bay- he didnt know me, i didnt know him, and he wanted beyond the normal protection, whcihmade sense to me, well, i listed it, he bought it , ( then paypal wont release the funds, I ask why? they said, he said he didnt trust me as a seller-eventhough i had 100 percent- so i asked paypal what to do, b/c i wanst about to send the amp, espiciallyof that value, well, they said to ask him for a different payment option, he declined, and i politely told him i couldnt sle him the amp, then he freaks out on me, and he was able to leave me negative feedback, that was the first ever! and, b/c i canceled the transaction they would not allow his negative feedback to be removed; i try and be as honest as possible in my listings, so there are no issues-the ti 500.4 i just sold was a 9.25/10 for 320 shipped, the zx600.2 im listing here is a 5/10 thus the 150 price-u all have heard all these same stories too many times, i just needed to vent, money is in account now-thanks

OldSchoolFool · Post by **OldSchoolFool** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:04 am

What about Paypal?

I sell to anyone in the world. The only three pricks who have ever filed a claim with paypal were in France, the Isle of Reunion, and England. The reason? All of them filed a claim after not getting their stuff in less than 7 days. Paypal puts a lock on your account until they lift the claim. Nice.

That's right- they thought a package could go from Portland, Oregon to Europe and beyond, thru their own customs, and into their hot little hands in less than 7 days.

That's fine, everybody is different, and I can't think for everyone. Fine. But PAYPAL has this neat policy- if you pay more than $100 for anything, you can file a claim the moment you pay. I asked the paypal people this in person on the phone.

"So a buyer in Australia can claim to you (paypal) that they haven't got their purchase in the mail within 5 minutes of paying for it? And you feel right seizing my accounts so I can do no business with anyone?"

"That's correct sir".

I hope this economic downturn hits EBAY and PAYPAL right in the ass. Of course- they probably both qualify for bailout monies. Where's my fucking pony? Asses.

sudden_impulse · Post by **sudden_impulse** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:58 pm

The only eBay problem I've had was when I bought my amp off there (never again lol). I contacted them a few times for info on a tracking number or something so I'd know the status of it, no reply. Week later I get an email asking for positive feedback. I was like "what the fuck, why would I give good feedback for no contact?" Needless to say, if I had waited 3 months I could've gotten a brand new one for less than I paid. I think some systems need to be tweaked just a little (lot).

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:10 am

I feel you osf-no more seller protection-and do they not understand that portland IS pg? You should tell them they are banned for life from pg products, and u have a button u can push that'll make their internal xover on their amps to start to whine( u know the whine, only pg ISSUE ive had with design over the years"all u do is JIGGLE the knob and it magically goes away" , and their caps will ignite!!

and sudden_impulse, sorry to hear u feel pray to a true scammer-

I only sale some of my stuff b/c I NEED $, since the l;ast day I worked was 09/26/08, its WEIRD- i feel like my mind is getting alzheimers

......where am i , oh yeah typing on a computer

gkitching · Post by **gkitching** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:57 am

thedeal7235 wrote:......where am i , oh yeah typing on a computer

Is that what you call it?!

I could've sworn you were just bashing keys with your elbows cause I can barely make any sense outta what you 'typed'

Post by **mhyde71** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:04 pm

gkitching wrote:
thedeal7235 wrote:......where am i , oh yeah typing on a computer
Is that what you call it?! I could've sworn you were just bashing keys with your elbows cause I can barely make any sense outta what you 'typed'

yeah kinda thinking/feeling same thing...

also in a good funny way though too...
@thedeal - you're funny!

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:48 pm

could be worse, thankfully our families are helping,we have our home and health, i mean the state does give me 1030 a month-god i used to make that in 4-5 workdays, i just calculated, ive lost almost 20k since no job-UNREAL!!!! thats why if i fly off the handle here guys its just STRESS, and sorry in advance-thanx for listening-
so my bro sent me a copy of , which i cant paste here, of the new bumper stickers, pull off your w stickers, and slap on a O(then in small letters under it, it says shit!
cest la vie!
ive been out of work long enuff 4 stipud to pm me that i had some astronomical unreaL AMOUNT POSTS A FEW WEEKS BACK-i said i must be a loser, luv it here and all u guys, but yes i also look for a job on a reg. basis- i have been averaging 2 interviews a week, STILL NADA!!!! oh well, thanx for listening-C

diamondstar · Post by **diamondstar** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:14 am

Sorry to hear about your trouble- the chrysler dealership I was working at closed up a few months back, and I just found new work. Like they say good things come to those who wait....
anyway a while back I bought a pair of new Kicker RMB8 midbass drivers on ebay and I learned the meaning of B stock real quick. After a few weeks one would only play if you gave it a little nudge to get started.

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:03 am

5.9Limited · Post by **5.9Limited** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:33 pm

Im going through this right now!!! I recently sold a very very rare vintage snare drum circa 1968... sweet drum...1400 bucks for an incomplete drum...not bad eh/??? its been 4 days and the bastard keeps stringing me along... "I have to wait till my biz partner gets back into town" he says... such BS... this is especially frustrating because that $$ is funding the last major parts of my system install!!!!!!!!