Thinking about leaving the state

Post by **mr tibbs** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:39 pm

After this last bout with the local community college and the dept. of licensing I'm seriously considering leaving this place. I feel like I'm on the outside looking in because I'm not part of the club (religion). It's to the point I just don't know if I want to keep beating my head against the wall. I seriously love the geography of this place, but the people ruin it for me.

Has anybody ever made a move to a place where they know nobody and have no family and friend support at all? I'm thinking Colorado right now, but am open to other suggestions (mountains are a requirement).

Thoughts?? Suggestions?

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:51 pm

if you came to Portland you would have family!

awe....

mt hood, mt bachelor...amazing skiing

Post by **mhyde71** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:00 pm

vermont - we still have squaters rights up heeer'now...know what-da mean now?
very liberal state up here and not much in between one another...

fordtough1 · Post by **fordtough1** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:01 pm

We moved 3 hours from where we grew up. Just far enough away to be left alone, but close enough to still visit.

I would love to live in Colorado, in fact I dream of retiring there when I get old.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:09 pm

Actually Portland could be an option. How is the job market? How is the weather? Please don't tell me it always rains there.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:19 pm

Friends and family are really the only reason I am still here. But at some point I have to ask myself (and the wife) if that is a good enough reason to stay. The wife is for it, I'm a little shaky. I think I'm going to wait a few weeks and go over this again. Right now I'm pretty pissed at this place and I'm just not sure if I can ever be happy here.

Post by **Francious70** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:17 pm

TN is always a good place. We have 4 actual season, the Appalachian mountains, and of course music-a-plenty.

If you did move, what would you do for work. I know you and your Dad do the Home Inspections, would you be able to set up shop somewhere else doing what ou already know and apparently kick ass at?

Post by **ttocs** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:19 pm

no rain in phoenix.........

Post by **mr tibbs** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:48 pm

Francious70 wrote:If you did move, what would you do for work. I know you and your Dad do the Home Inspections, would you be able to set up shop somewhere else doing what ou already know and apparently kick ass at?

Well, that's something to still consider. Since the old man already has retirement money I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem closing up shop, but who knows. Right now me and the wife are just talking about this possibility. She has he MBA and a few other certificates that will take her a long way no matter where we end up. I'm sure she can get a job anywhere we go.

Honestly I don't know what I would do for employment. I like the home inspection stuff, but without the old mans experience it might be a hard sell to customers.

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:43 pm

... I moved to a different country and then another one. It's harder with and on kids, but they settle in soon enough.
If the family's prepared to move, too, then I think you can go anywhere and do anything. Get a larger property and install him in a second building on the land - sorted.

not doing anything is always an option, but it's an option many choose because they can't figure the unknown out. It's not possible to know what's going to happen - but if you don't take an opportunity, then....

I would strongly recommend AGAINST moving somewhere where neither of you have a job without, say, $20k cash available. Check what you can, work out how difficult it would be to find something, then how much it would pay... by all means limit the search to specific areas but if you have to work really hard to find something, is it worth the hit for x months until you're really on your feet?

Bret

Me-262 · Post by **Me-262** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:25 am

I moved clear across the country about 10 years back when I was single. I wanted a change , to live somewhere different (on the ocean) and somewhat to see what it would be like ot live on my own, no family, no friends just me and the new city. Its tough, can get lonely but is also rewarding and so long as you pick the right place interesting. For me, I moved out to Vancouver Canada. Pretty cool city with a ton of stuff to see. I'm an outdoors guy so while I didn't have friends/family to hang with there was always somethign for me to do, new stuff to see (and great Asian food to eat).

And yes, make sure you have a reserve of money. I made sure I had about 8 months worth of $$ to live off if I couldn't find work. Took me about 3 months to get employed.

bogart · Post by **bogart** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:53 am

It rains in oregon all the damn time....but it is a very beautiful state for it. Lots of outdoor stuff year around. Lots of phorum folks here too...but the summers are generally nice

Post by **stipud** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:33 am

To be honest Colorado sounds like it would be perfect for you. It's got the same landscape and similar weather, but the people are waaay better (though the mormons are making their way in as well). Still, Colorado sounds like one of the most liberal places in America. Lots of healthy, decent folk from what I have seen.

Portland would take a lot of weather adjustment for sure. It's a gorgeous city though. I was totally floored... easily the greenest place I have ever been in my life. Anywhere that isn't paved has mountains of plants spilling out of the ground. It feels very alive there. The old downtown had lots of culture, really nice wooden architecture, lots of biking, etc. And while being a huge city, it's so green and hilly there, you always feel like it's a much smaller place.

I am about to do the same thing you are thinking of. I've grown up in Calgary since '85, but I have never felt at home here. It's easy for me to stay here... good job, family, and friends. However, I don't want to settle down in a place where I don't feel at home, or feel like an outcast... just as you do. The people here just seem to get their kicks in a different way. I don't care about being rich and having better stuff than my neighbors. I don't like tanning, going to the gym, or clubbing. I just want to live a modest happy lifestyle, and spend as much time outdoors as I can.

While Calgary is right by the rockies, it's also a ~1.5 hr drive to get there (3hr round trip), which is a little prohibitive... so you're limited to the weekends for the most part. Then you just have to get the weather to agree with you, which is obviously the biggest challenge here. For example, it was in the high 70's and 80's all week, but they are forecasting snow on Saturday.

Vancouver however is literally IN the mountains. Sure it rains a lot more, but the temperature is also much milder. At night it's only a few degrees off the daytime temperature, since you've got a big body of water acting as a heat reservoir next to you. There are many more parks, there's tons of delicious small restaurants to visit, and it's just one of the most modern, beautiful cities I have ever seen.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:54 am

I moved to Vancouver with my wife where we only knew one couple and a few other fringe people/acquaintances at the time. We've now made a lot of friends and things are going well. Getting a puppy has thrown us a curveball though... but that's another story.

We said fuck Calgary, and left.

It was scary, especially concerning work but I got an interview while we were visiting looking for a place and got an offer for the job just a week before moving. My wife wasn't sure what she'd do but she quickly found some work and paid her dues and now she supervises the stockroom in the biggest HMV in Canada. I'm not gonna hype it up but I'm proud she stuck with a crappy ass job long enough to move up, make more and be happier with herself.

I can't speak for you and your situation, but I know I'm waaay happier now in Vancouver than I was in Calgary and it was the right decision to move.

Moving was exciting, scary, new, fun and so many other things. But I knew I had to move. Something about where I was at in Calgary was bringing me down. Not to say I'm always happy in Vancouver. But I'm a lot happier overall.

Take that for whatever it's worth.

Me-262 · Post by **Me-262** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:59 am

Where the H$$% where all you guys on the West Coast when I lived there ?

My issue with Vancouver is it rains A LOT, kinda drove me nuts. I'd go out biking on a beautiful sunny day and halfway home these black clouds would roll in and I'd get soaked with freezing cold ocean rainwater. On the flip side, when its nice its an amzing place to explore.

Another ocean spot to think about is Halifax NS. Other side of the country, not as scenic but still lots to see, the people are amazingly friendly and housing is pretty cheap.

denim · Post by **denim** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:06 am

Could you present yourself as a satellite office for your dad's company?

Post by **mr tibbs** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:23 am

denim wrote:Could you present yourself as a satellite office for your dad's company?

Well, that could be a possibility. Technically I am half owner of the company along with being the Vice President/Treasurer. I guess I will just have to feel out wherever I decide to go and see if there is a market for home inspections.

Ya know, I think I'm just sooooo pissed right now about this whole school thing I can't think straight. I told the wife that last night and she agreed. So, what I'm thinking now is I have to wait a few weeks to cool off and get my mind straight. OTOH, now that I say all of this it seems like a great opportunity for me and the wife. We seriously love the geography here, but can't stand most of the people. I get judged on a daily basis because I have some facial hair. That is it. Before people ever say one word to me or hear anything about me they know I can't be a good person because of my facial hair. It's seriously ridiculous! Now I know I am being hard on the people around here but there are some great people here as well. I have many friends that are mormon that I have never had a problem with, but they seem to be the exception to the rule.

I don't know, I guess I'm just sick of the games. I don't know how many times I can continue to beat my head against this wall and expect it to finally give. I have never been a quitter, but this is not fun anymore. I want to be happy and comfortable when I leave the house. I want to have an open minded conversation with intelligent people for a change. I'm not that smart, but I do enjoy conversing with people and maybe learning a different point of view. Around here it is always the same thing and I'm tired of hearing it. That and most people I talk to here are sooooooo closed minded. They see it their way and that is the only way things can be. I just don't understand that mindset.

So, keep talking here please. I like seeing the different points of view and it gives me something to think about. In a few weeks I will come back to this and see if I still feel the same way. If I do it's probably time for a change!

Post by **stipud** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:35 am

So what happened with the school again? Did I forget?

denim · Post by **denim** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:41 am

mr tibbs wrote:
denim wrote:Could you present yourself as a satellite office for your dad's company?
Well, that could be a possibility. Technically I am half owner of the company along with being the Vice President/Treasurer. I guess I will just have to feel out wherever I decide to go and see if there is a market for home inspections.

Ya know, I think I'm just sooooo pissed right now about this whole school thing I can't think straight. I told the wife that last night and she agreed. So, what I'm thinking now is I have to wait a few weeks to cool off and get my mind straight. OTOH, now that I say all of this it seems like a great opportunity for me and the wife. We seriously love the geography here, but can't stand most of the people. I get judged on a daily basis because I have some facial hair. That is it. Before people ever say one word to me or hear anything about me they know I can't be a good person because of my facial hair. It's seriously ridiculous! Now I know I am being hard on the people around here but there are some great people here as well. I have many friends that are mormon that I have never had a problem with, but they seem to be the exception to the rule.

I don't know, I guess I'm just sick of the games. I don't know how many times I can continue to beat my head against this wall and expect it to finally give. I have never been a quitter, but this is not fun anymore. I want to be happy and comfortable when I leave the house. I want to have an open minded conversation with intelligent people for a change. I'm not that smart, but I do enjoy conversing with people and maybe learning a different point of view. Around here it is always the same thing and I'm tired of hearing it. That and most people I talk to here are sooooooo closed minded. They see it their way and that is the only way things can be. I just don't understand that mindset.

So, keep talking here please. I like seeing the different points of view and it gives me something to think about. In a few weeks I will come back to this and see if I still feel the same way. If I do it's probably time for a change!

That makes total sense, and I support your decision to move. Personally, I stay far away from organized religion.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:09 pm

Well, all of the sudden Elko, Nevada is a possibility. I talked to the old man about the possibility of moving out of state and he was all for it! I wasn't even talking about him moving, just me and the wife.

I know him and my mom want to retire pretty soon, but my mom has at least one more year left. He talked about the possibility of all of us moving at the same time. That is one of their top places to move to so I guess I'm going to have to consider that. It is in the mountains, and it looks like it is less populated than here and a little cooler climate. We would only be about 3-4 hours away from the wife's mom, and right next to Utah if we wanted to visit any other friends or family.

And, guess what state borders Nevada?? OREGON!!!!

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:07 pm

it does boarder oregon! still a hell of a drive to get near civilization...but closer! maybe even "making it to a labor dabor" close!

rlockwood · Post by **rlockwood** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:13 pm

where the hell is elko, nv?

Also, I hadnt realized you had facial hair, tibbs.. I now think significantly less of you!

On a more serious note, Lake Tahoe remains the awesomest place ive visited so far, and I would kill to live there.

but on the OTHER OTHER hand, every vacation ive ever gone with I spend the whole time going 'wow, this place is beautiful'

until I come back to swwa and go "WOW, THIS place is BEAUTIFUL'

Post by **mr tibbs** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:37 pm

rlockwood wrote:where the hell is elko, nv?

Also, I hadnt realized you had facial hair, tibbs.. I now think significantly less of you!

On a more serious note, Lake Tahoe remains the awesomest place ive visited so far, and I would kill to live there.

but on the OTHER OTHER hand, every vacation ive ever gone with I spend the whole time going 'wow, this place is beautiful'

until I come back to swwa and go "WOW, THIS place is BEAUTIFUL'

Elko is in Northern Nevada. I might have to take a quick road trip there this weekend and check it out. It's been many, many years since I visited.

Post by **Francious70** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:06 pm

Vegas baby. Vegas

Post by **smgreen20** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:22 am

fordtough1 wrote:.....I dream of retiring there when I get old.

Are you there yet?????