Phoenix Gold Phorum

Not that kind of Trojan, the computer kind!! Get your head out of the gutter fowler!

The piece of crapola PC I have been talking about has a trojan. How do I know? Because Mcafee points it out (with a file name and all), but won't remove the damn thing because it's in the system32 folder. I found one site that told me to enter safe mode on start up and physically remove it, but is that safe? I did try Avast as well, but that didn't do the trick either.

Yes do your virus scan clean in safe mode thats how you get rid of trojans


I said trojans

Generally, if the file is "in use" you won't be able to remove it via traditional methods.

Some AV will "quarantine" a trojan so that next time you boot, it won't start up and then it can remove it.

I would say that you should find out everything you can about this particular trojan and removal techniques. Most AV sites will have a write up about specific viruses and trojans and removal techniques should their normal software not be able to remove it.

Try safemode as it *should* prevent the trojan from starting up at which point you would be able to remove it.

hahaha you had me pegged, i actually pulled up the trojan site before i opened this thread...lol


give this app a shot. it catches quite a bit of spyware/trojans and its free.

http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-D ... ag=lst-0-1

^also, as ryan said, if the program finds something in use that it can't remove, it will prompt you to restart, and then will commence removing it before windows loads again upon your restart

I tried Spybot, no go on the removal. I'll go try again though!

did you get the latest definitions list?

Well, between Avast, Spybot, and a few cleaner programs it looks like I might have got the bugger!! I did update Spybot and I'm thinking that's what got it. I guess I'll try to boot it up again tomorrow and see if that did the trick or not.

Thanks as always for all the help guys!!

http://www.superantispyware.com/downloa ... PYWAREFREE

that prog is pretty coo....

http://free.grisoft.com/
so is AVG

Second on the AVG suggestion.

But just boot into safe mode, delete the file, and if you screw winders, fuck it, it needed to be re-installed anyways.

Use AVG/Grisoft or Avast.

update either fully. Restart computer in safe Mode (press F8 ) while loading. Run Anti-virus app. It should be able to pull the Virus. If not, note the location, and re-boot to safe mode, delete file.

Also try going into the "advanced mode" of spybot. You can use the tools options to delete startup files so they will not load on start up.

If that all fails try "HiJack This", but be for-warned it is not for the novice as you can seriously screw up your computer with a wrong click.

i generaly try to grab the tip and pull straight of the end and make sure as to keep the opening up so it wont spill then you can just flush it or toss it in the waste basket

twisted wrote:i generaly try to grab the tip and pull straight of the end and make sure as to keep the opening up so it wont spill then you can just flush it or toss it in the waste basket

Why flush it when you can flip it inside out shake and re-use?

Best utility i have used is PREVX1

http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?grab=pinnacle

VW337 wrote:

twisted wrote:i generaly try to grab the tip and pull straight of the end and make sure as to keep the opening up so it wont spill then you can just flush it or toss it in the waste basket

Why flush it when you can flip it inside out shake and re-use?

damn you mean ive been wastin money on those damned things all this time? thanks for the tip

x2 on the prevx1. I tried AVG,Spybot, and a couple others when I was having problems. Prevx1 was the only one that worked for me. Too bad it expired.

VW337 wrote:

twisted wrote:i generaly try to grab the tip and pull straight of the end and make sure as to keep the opening up so it wont spill then you can just flush it or toss it in the waste basket

Why flush it when you can flip it inside out shake and re-use?

Nasty, just plain nasty!! And I thought Fowler was going to be the sick one here!

BigDaddy wrote:x2 on the prevx1. I tried AVG,Spybot, and a couple others when I was having problems. Prevx1 was the only one that worked for me. Too bad it expired.

never tried prevx1 myself...will have to check it out and see how it works.
But for any of you who do virus and spyware removal for a living, let me tell you, not just one program will handle everything that is out there. The virus and spyware realm some of the best software out there will only catch MAYBE 15-20% of what is infecting your system. And belive me....I know! (work in a comp store as the senior tech). Use about 8 different Antispyware tools, and 4 Anti viruses does not always catch everything....plus I know how to remove most of the viruses and spyware manually that my tools do not.

Wakeup wrote:

BigDaddy wrote:x2 on the prevx1. I tried AVG,Spybot, and a couple others when I was having problems. Prevx1 was the only one that worked for me. Too bad it expired.

never tried prevx1 myself...will have to check it out and see how it works.
But for any of you who do virus and spyware removal for a living, let me tell you, not just one program will handle everything that is out there. The virus and spyware realm some of the best software out there will only catch MAYBE 15-20% of what is infecting your system. And belive me....I know! (work in a comp store as the senior tech). Use about 8 different Antispyware tools, and 4 Anti viruses does not always catch everything....plus I know how to remove most of the viruses and spyware manually that my tools do not.

This is very true.......

I personally Firewall the shit out of my system (2x software + 1x hardware), and watch my processes closely.

Those that are not experienced...I say be careful with firewalls....can be tricky if you dont know how to use it...and when to say yes or no to block something....

anyone tried Bit defender Internet Security 10.
my supplier who happens to be country disty for this gave me one free and its really not bad.
Quite cheap too if ur goin the genuine way...
now sellin all my PCs with it OEM.

a review i came across googlin on it...

http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/