Phoenix Gold Phorum

I know they're not PG but a serious sub non the less. 2 of em.



Check out the 5.1" voice coil!



Can't wait to break'em in.

Holy hell, someone makes a boat load of money!!

MSRP: $785

This is the first subwoofer by Morel, right?

I bet it sounds fucking excellent.

Yes Morel!

mr tibbs wrote:Holy hell, someone makes a boat load of money!!

Not to mention, or rather to mention the Piccolo tweets sitting next to the woofer!

AVICJR wrote: Not to mention, or rather to mention the Piccolo tweets sitting next to the woofer!

I'm using those tweeters in lieu of the tweeters that come with the PG Elite set. I have a 3 way with the 5 1/4" mid in the kick and 9" as a midbass in the door. Now I'll be adding the piccolo's in the a-pillars so I'll be able to cross them over at a lower freq.

Nice! Which midbass did you go with? I've been talking to Vin and he's somewhat talked me into getting a set of 6.5" Supremo's, which come with those particular tweeters.

Well Ive been using the PG Elites 3-way(9"-5 1/4"-twt) which is essentially the Elate series driver from Morel. I was thinking of switching to all Supremo series but after talking to them seems the Elite/Elate 9" is better suited as a midbass driver in a 3-way setup whereas the Supremo was better suited in a 2-way system. So I'm keeping the PG 5 1/4"mid and 9" as a midbass. Adding the piccolo's and replacing Arc Audio 12's with the Ultimos.

Please post a review when all is said and done.

You bitch! I have so wanted one of those. You HAVE to let us know how it sounds. I just know it has to be sweet. If you ever want to unload one?????!!!!!!.......

Damn, now I'm getting bitch slapped LOL! I certainly will. I'm gonna put them in today and break them in over the weekend. I'll give my findings maybe mon/tues next week. Hopefully the airspace in my existing enclosures will work for these. Should. But if not I'm in for a lengthy rebuild.

gkitching wrote:Well Ive been using the PG Elites 3-way(9"-5 1/4"-twt) which is essentially the Elate series driver from Morel. I was thinking of switching to all Supremo series but after talking to them seems the Elite/Elate 9" is better suited as a midbass driver in a 3-way setup whereas the Supremo was better suited in a 2-way system. So I'm keeping the PG 5 1/4"mid and 9" as a midbass. Adding the piccolo's and replacing Arc Audio 12's with the Ultimos.

And you haven't posted your install yet?

I've been planning to but it's been a 'work in progress' and wanted to wait till it was done. But I can post the build pics awhile.

How do those 9ms sound to you?

gkitching wrote:I've been planning to but it's been a 'work in progress' and wanted to wait till it was done. But I can post the build pics awhile.

Build pics are more exciting to me than the finished product.

nice sub and set up.

Ahsmo wrote:How do those 9ms sound to you?

I love them! As a matter of fact, I blew one attempting to find out what their limits really were. When I finished the enclosures for them I was so amazed at how low they would play I started doing sine sweeps with them. I had people getting in to listen because I was so impressed. I keep pushing my luck with volume and had the whole car shaking with just these two 9" drivers! Then I smelled it. That unmistakable smell of burning coil.

So I bought replacements and now I know that for what I am using them for they will shine! In my set-up they are the midbass for the front stage. I have them playing from 40hz up to 250hz which is the lowest my P-9 will allow

stipud wrote:

gkitching wrote:I've been planning to but it's been a 'work in progress' and wanted to wait till it was done. But I can post the build pics awhile.

Build pics are more exciting to me than the finished product.

I posted the pics in the Install Forum under 'My work in progress'

SEXY ASS SUBS!!!!!!

gkitching wrote:Well Ive been using the PG Elites 3-way(9"-5 1/4"-twt) which is essentially the Elate series driver from Morel. I was thinking of switching to all Supremo series but after talking to them seems the Elite/Elate 9" is better suited as a midbass driver in a 3-way setup whereas the Supremo was better suited in a 2-way system. So I'm keeping the PG 5 1/4"mid and 9" as a midbass. Adding the piccolo's and replacing Arc Audio 12's with the Ultimos.

get a smaller VC midrange driver ... you'll thank me later.

bdubs767 wrote: get a smaller VC midrange driver ... you'll thank me later.

Curious .. What is VC? Voice Coil? Why would a smaller one make a differance?

gkitching wrote:

bdubs767 wrote: get a smaller VC midrange driver ... you'll thank me later.

Curious .. What is VC? Voice Coil? Why would a smaller one make a differance?

yea voice coil. The big ones color your midrange...great for midbass. Every big VC midrange I use is very very color, dyn and morel. Just my listening impressions and many others too.

gkitching wrote:

Ahsmo wrote:How do those 9ms sound to you?

I love them! As a matter of fact, I blew one attempting to find out what their limits really were. When I finished the enclosures for them I was so amazed at how low they would play I started doing sine sweeps with them. I had people getting in to listen because I was so impressed. I keep pushing my luck with volume and had the whole car shaking with just these two 9" drivers! Then I smelled it. That unmistakable smell of burning coil.

So I bought replacements and now I know that for what I am using them for they will shine! In my set-up they are the midbass for the front stage. I have them playing from 40hz up to 250hz which is the lowest my P-9 will allow

Glad you like them. I blew one as well. Played fine for 8 hours during my ride from Texas to Colorado. Blew in the last 10 min of an 8 hour trip.

I might have an extra one if you are interested.

sorry to thread jack but ahsmo how many extra 9's do you have? Just the one? If no one else needs one...I might need one....let me know what you want shipped to 97038!

I have 1 spare. I've been holding on to it in case one of the ones I'm using goes down. But if you don't hook up with ahsmo and can't find an other I'll be able to help.