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Pug}{maN's caliber RSDC 12" install

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:36 pm
by Pug}{maN
im going to start this now, but with 5" of snow on the ground here and more on the way it will be some time before i get to the install, going to get going on the box here tommrow....pics as of now...

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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:44 pm
by Misfire
Can you send some of that snow to Oregon? Least it would help save our roads from the morons that are still using studded tires. What idiots!

Looking forward to the install pics!

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:18 pm
by Pug}{maN
ya we got 9" as of right now, going to snow till sunday night, sead 12" or more all sead....1st day of spring..right...

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:30 pm
by Pug}{maN
got the box going 14x14x16 1.181 box volume after the 0.13 driver volume.

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:20 pm
by twisted
box looks good sofar......glad all that snow bypassed me in kansas and went straight to you :wink: :mrgreen:

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:04 pm
by Pug}{maN
ya that pic was like 1/2 what we got....snow...im over it...

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:05 pm
by Stryker
please tell us/me your not using particle board..... :hmm: I mean really :doh: I sooo hope I'm seeing things in bad light here.
Also standing waves may or may not be a problem as your box is almost square if I'm seeing things the right way.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:47 pm
by Pug}{maN
its 3/4 mdf, and its 14x14x16, im puting in some poly fill, will that help the waves ?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:02 pm
by ttocs
ideally you want to use MDF - medium densitiy fiberboard. It is common for cheaper boxes to be made of particle board like yours but it is still frowned upon. IT has a completely different texture that makes for a much more solid box. You are lucky you didn't break a corner off of it when tightening your screws down so far from the corner. Normally you wan to keep them a couple of inches away from each corner.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:07 pm
by Stryker
yup,poly fill will work just fine. I'm just saying that does not look anything like MDF.... but if you say so.... it's your box. Now hurry up and get this in, :lol: snow or no snow.
I was looking at your ride and I'm really hoping there is no salt on the roads where you live cause those pretty chrome rims will start pitting(small black spots if your lucky) rapidly if left dirty for even a short time. Ask me i know. :doh:

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:19 pm
by gbody805
Did you pick the board yourself or did you ask a salesperson?

The board you used looks more like fiberboard then MDF.

With MDF the fibers are alot smother then what you have pictured.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:04 pm
by Pug}{maN
hell i cant tell, told them i need'd 3/4 mdf, they had a 8'x20" piece, so i got it. heres more pics of it...

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:07 pm
by Pug}{maN
Stryker wrote:
I was looking at your ride and I'm really hoping there is no salt on the roads where you live cause those pretty chrome rims will start pitting(small black spots if your lucky) rapidly if left dirty for even a short time. Ask me i know. :doh:
i just put them back on, thought the snow was over...ya right..

i told her not to drive it in this stuff, till it dries out...

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:19 pm
by gbody805
Yea.
Hate to tell you man, the person who helped you didn't know or didn't care what they were showing you.

That is not MDF.
When you cut MDF it cuts smooth. It doesn't have as many air pockets. You shouldn't be able to see the wood fibers.

It should work ok.
You might have air leaks and cracking if you drive the sub hard. Also the screws might pull out.

Work with it for now and change it when you rebuild in the future.
You know you are going to rebuild. We all do. :whistle:

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:47 pm
by Pug}{maN
ya, ill see if i like the way it sounds in the 1.181, i can adjust it if need be and make a new one...piss...

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:32 pm
by ttocs
you could throw a coat of fiberglass resin inside of it to ensure it is solid and sealed. As he said real MDF is basically just saw dust that they bond and press back together. Your has larger chips and while it is similar, it is different.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:57 pm
by Pug}{maN
i got some...ill try that to...

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:00 pm
by Bfowler
you will be ok. just be sure to be careful not to strip out the screws as you fasten it together and DO seal it with something

either fiberglass resin as mentioned above, or even just a polyurethane sealer would be ok.

particle board sucks in moisture like a mafucka

also, some t or hurricane nuts arent a bad idea since screws dont hold in it well. (hell, even in mdf or plywood they arent a bad idea)

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:08 pm
by Pug}{maN
i got LIQUID NAILS all over it, and in the joints before i screw'd it down..should be solid

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:07 pm
by Pug}{maN
Bfowler wrote:
also, some t or hurricane nuts arent a bad idea since screws dont hold in it well. (hell, even in mdf or plywood they arent a bad idea)

hope your happy..fu@kers cost me $20.00 ! lol...

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also got my line leavel converter today...

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:19 pm
by Pug}{maN
o ya, got some good news today a guy i know has a guy with a line-x bedliner shop, sead he would do the box for $20.00 ! so that cheep wood will be all line-x bedliner ! lol ! then put the fiberglass reason in the inside and hurricane nuts to hold the sub in..will be like a tank ! lol..

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:43 pm
by Bfowler
nice! holy crap you got robbed on those nuts! i would have mailed you some for less then that!

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:44 pm
by Rold Gold
WAIT ON DOING THAT!!!!!!!!

Make sure ya like the way the sub sounds first.

If it was me, I'd build another box outta MDF and then pimp it out. Router the edges and double face it to countersink the woofer. Then have the box coated inside and out. 8)

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:04 pm
by Pug}{maN
Bfowler wrote:nice! holy crap you got robbed on those nuts! i would have mailed you some for less then that!
ya it was $2.00 each for the one things and $.40 each for the other, x 8, tax and all was like $19.50 some.....

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:54 pm
by smgreen20
3/4 MDF usually comes in 49" x 97". At least it does here.