Phoenix Gold Phorum

This is my system diagram drew by me. Let me know what you think or if you've any suggestions...

First off, HOLY CHIT!!!! THAT'S A LOT OF WIRES!!!!!

Now a question, why are you double fusing the power wire coming off of the isolater going to the back batts? Also, why Optimas and not Kenitik or Stinger batts?

I think you need a few more screens and SDT kits.

My brain died looking at that

mr tibbs wrote:Now a question, why are you double fusing the power wire coming off of the isolater going to the back batts? Also, why Optimas and not Kenitik or Stinger batts?

First question...Because the wire is going through a firewall from the front to the back 2 Optima batteries.
Second question...Why not !!!

stipud wrote:I think you need a few more screens and SDT kits.

No more screens and 1 SDT kit per amp !!!

Wow, you need a bigger diagram!

Based on your current layout, I would recommend:
1)moving the rear optimas togther and eliminate fusing between them.
2)removing redundant fusing between powercore and your amps (remove fuses alltogther here if runs are short enough.)
3)you're going to need to free up a few more spots on your dd10 for all those alpine monitors (10 amperes max). i'd double up sdt kits on each dd10 output.
4)because you're running identical batteries I would eliminate the battery isolator. it's a bottleneck in the charging system, and really all it offers you is the ability to run the system batteries dead and still be able to crank the starter.
5)depending on how you plan on showing the vehicle, a 12v power supply would likely be a much better power source.

dedlyjedly wrote:Wow, you need a bigger diagram!

Based on your current layout, I would recommend:
1)moving the rear optimas togther and eliminate fusing between them.
2)removing redundant fusing between powercore and your amps (remove fuses alltogther here if runs are short enough.)
3)you're going to need to free up a few more spots on your dd10 for all those alpine monitors (10 amperes max). i'd double up sdt kits on each dd10 output.
4)because you're running identical batteries I would eliminate the battery isolator. it's a bottleneck in the charging system, and really all it offers you is the ability to run the system batteries dead and still be able to crank the starter.
5)depending on how you plan on showing the vehicle, a 12v power supply would likely be a much better power source.

1. The 2 rear optimas are together in the back...but thet're about 2 feet from one and other.
2. Shouldn't my amps be fuses to protect them?
3. Actually the Alpine screens are no longer power by the DD10. They will be fuses via the ZBB12 and the power will be distribute through a bus bar. Why doubling up the SDT?
4. I'm not sure I'll get rid of it.
5. A 12V power supply...got one!!! Maybe I'll draw it !!!

Thanks for your inputs some of them will be taken into consideration.

damn I'm dizzy

I feel sorry for who ever works on it.

I'll have to look at that again in the morning when my brain is functioning at full capacity.

Damn.....

onecrazy95civic wrote: 1. The 2 rear optimas are together in the back...but thet're about 2 feet from one and other.
2. Shouldn't my amps be fuses to protect them?
3. Actually the Alpine screens are no longer power by the DD10. They will be fuses via the ZBB12 and the power will be distribute through a bus bar. Why doubling up the SDT?
4. I'm not sure I'll get rid of it.
5. A 12V power supply...got one!!! Maybe I'll draw it !!!

Thanks for your inputs some of them will be taken into consideration.

1. Cool...eliminate the fuse between them.
2. Your amps have fuses onboard to protect them.
3. I was just pointing out that 9 monitors would be a little taxing for one output of the dd10. My suggestion to remedy the situation was to double up sdt's instead of running each on a dedicated dd10 output.
4. You probably better!

vin78 wrote:damn I'm dizzy

I feel sorry for who ever works on it.

Me !!! Lots of hours!!!

I would consider using Visio to draw things like this. It looks a heck of a lot more professional, and is very easy to do, or make changes too.

My install was very simple, but there is no reason why you cannot expand the page size to get more in there…

dedlyjedly wrote:Based on your current layout, I would recommend:
5)depending on how you plan on showing the vehicle, a 12v power supply would likely be a much better power source.

I just bought a 12V power supply...but to be honest I'm not sure exactly how to hook it up !!! I was going to draw it in but wasn't sure where to incorporated in...do hool it up to the back battery or is it a separate electrical system isolated from the batteries...???

Eric D wrote:I would consider using Visio to draw things like this.

Web site address...wouldn't mind taking a look at it...

I think Visio 2002 would be all you need, and you can find that on eBay for cheap, either used, or new old stock.

After some suggestion to the wiring (power) I descided to make some corrections. So here's version #2 of my system diagram with the correction done to the wiring. I also added my 12V power supply in the schematic, but I'm not sure if this is the correct way to plug it. If any suggestion let me know.

All I can say is wow.

But that is one thing I like about this place. There are systems ranging from mine, which has 1 amp, 1 EQ, 2 subs and front componets to yours which has more things then I have ever had in 2 cars combined.

onecrazy95civic wrote:

Eric D wrote:I would consider using Visio to draw things like this.

Web site address...wouldn't mind taking a look at it...

Also take a look at "Scribus" a freeware desktop publisher that started as a linux program but migrated due to popularity. May be overkill for what you need though.

I use omnigraffle on my Mac, great diagramming tool.