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1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:34 am
by joerg
Since my Vacation started i finished the plans and drawings for my new install.

The Car:
A fully technical overhauled 1997 BMW 525tds Touring
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List of Contents to get installed:
Headunit: Denon DCT-R1
Volume Level Display: Denon DSV-1
RCA-Cables: Rockford Fosgate Riot blue/silver
Amplifier Sub: Phoenix Gold Nickel MS2250
Amplifier Mids: Phoenix Gold Nickel MS2250
Amplifier Tweets: Phoenix Gold Nickel MS2250
Crossover: Phoenix Gold AX406a
EQ: Phoenix Gold EQ230 Nickel Edition
Signal Processor: Phoenix Gold Basscube
Linedrivers: 3 Phoenix Gold PLD1
Subwoofer: 1 Focal KX46SPL
Mids: 4 Focal 6K3P
Tweets: 2 Focal TC90K
Batteries: 2 Powercell 4000
Speaker Cables: 4mm² Phoenix Gold Zero Point
Remote and Voltage Distribution: Phoenix Gold DD5
Power Distribution: 2 TBBKF12, 1 TBBKF34, 2 TBD34

Few pictures of the gear:
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Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:53 am
by joerg
I started with the tweeter mounts on the A-pillars. First i hade some MDF-frames made up from my carpenter. I took the covers off the A-pillars and screwed th tweeter frames onto them. Then i modified the frames to fit the pillars so that the tweets are angled at 7 to 10 degrees facing inside the car. After that i used synthetic resin filling compound to fully implement the frames into the pillars. The last picture is how far i made it today. BTW: I hate sanding :lol: :evil: :lol:

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Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:50 pm
by Stryker
Gonna be a sweet setup, and purdy too 8)

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:15 am
by stipud
Nice seat covers :lol:

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:20 am
by Nils
Looking forward to see this project :) 8) Nice collection of components!!!! :P

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:14 pm
by joerg
stipud wrote:Nice seat covers :lol:
Just to protect the seats from my work clothing while installing everything up front. :wink:

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:02 pm
by stipud
joerg wrote:
stipud wrote:Nice seat covers :lol:
Just to protect the seats from my work clothing while installing everything up front. :wink:
Oh thank god :lol:

It seems to me that with the odd shape of your tweeter housings, that using fiberglass would have been much easier than just body filler.

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:17 pm
by joerg
stipud wrote:It seems to me that with the odd shape of your tweeter housings, that using fiberglass would have been much easier than just body filler.
I hate working with fiberglass. The sticky shit all over and waiting forever for it to dry up when u mix it wrong. Can´t wait doing the sub enclosure in the drunk. There i´ll have to use fiberglass.

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:16 pm
by ttocs
I am not a fan of the tweeter pods. The just do not flow at all with anything in the car but the european tweeter pods have been going that rout for a while and I can respect that the form follows the function. I would have tried to cut a hole in the pillar and sink that into the pillar as fas as I could personally.

Glass is only messy your first 8-10 times. Once you get it under control and realized you need all the parts with in arms reach while mixing and that the prep is everything, its not that bad.

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:44 am
by joerg
ttocs wrote:I am not a fan of the tweeter pods. The just do not flow at all with anything in the car but the european tweeter pods have been going that rout for a while and I can respect that the form follows the function. I would have tried to cut a hole in the pillar and sink that into the pillar as fas as I could personally.

Glass is only messy your first 8-10 times. Once you get it under control and realized you need all the parts with in arms reach while mixing and that the prep is everything, its not that bad.
I finished the A-pillars yesterday. And believe me the Tweeters are as far inside the pillars as possible. These are not 25mm round TI elite tweets. These are 90mm x 90mm and have a hight of 45mm. Plus the angle i needed to mount them at that´s the best i could do.

As for the glass thingy. I can´t wait for the trunk. :pray:

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:57 am
by joerg
Like said above the last two days i finished quite a bit. The A-pillars are done the wires a pulled from the front to the trunk and the original radio is out of the car. I converted the whole thing to a dual DIN slot with the parts from a vendor in germany. Worked out very well. 8) Now i´m waiting for the headunit to arrive from California.

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Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:29 pm
by stipud
I think it would look better in the top slot, because the gold CF matches the deck very nicely.

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:02 pm
by joerg
stipud wrote:I think it would look better in the top slot, because the gold CF matches the deck very nicely.
That´s where i´ll place it as soon as the headunit is here! 8)

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:36 am
by kg1961
very very nice work! :clap: looks great

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:08 am
by stipud
joerg wrote:
stipud wrote:I think it would look better in the top slot, because the gold CF matches the deck very nicely.
That´s where i´ll place it as soon as the headunit is here! 8)
Oh duhhh that's not even the HU! Cool! 8) 8) 8)

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:15 pm
by Damo95
those square tweeters aren't the easiest speaker to install.. I had a pair of T121's (i think) quite a few years ago.. they aren't light either..

props to you for getting them up on the pillars, and nice work with the mdf mountings.
only thing i would have suggested to do, is to do a round over on the corners, so that they aren't so "sharp".
Otherwise, looks great!

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:55 pm
by joerg
Damo95 wrote:those square tweeters aren't the easiest speaker to install.. I had a pair of T121's (i think) quite a few years ago.. they aren't light either..

props to you for getting them up on the pillars, and nice work with the mdf mountings.
only thing i would have suggested to do, is to do a round over on the corners, so that they aren't so "sharp".
Otherwise, looks great!
I had the 120ties in a former install of mine as well. But at that time they were mounted into the Dash.

The more i look at the picture of the finished A pillar i guess that just the angle the picture was taken at makes the pods look too big and sharp. I´ll take better pictures the next days.

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:51 pm
by ttocs
I am not a fan of the gold CF myself.

I too agree about rounding the corners off on the tweet. When I do glass I try to make it look as smooth as possible to make it look natural in the car.

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:14 am
by joerg
Finished the Headunit today! Got it up´n runnin and got to say that i´m very happy with the looks of it.

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After the headunit was done i started to modify the driverside door to have it ready for fiberglass work.

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More to come tomorrow...

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:10 am
by kg1961
very very nice joerg!!! as always

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:11 am
by joerg
And on we go. Today i did the passanger door and started to apply the polyester resin. 8) I can´t tell how much i hate that sh*t :lol:

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Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:25 am
by ttocs
any reason you did that one so differently then the first? You left the stock speaker opening in the first one but not in the 2nd?

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:36 am
by joerg
ttocs wrote:any reason you did that one so differently then the first? You left the stock speaker opening in the first one but not in the 2nd?
I´m doing the drivers door the same way. The picture was just a testfit to see that nothing keeps the door from closing all way.

Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:36 am
by joerg
Today i replaced the original Battery with a nice Powercell 4000. I so like BMW´s having the original Battery in the trunk and me not pulling a 50mmm² wire all the way to the back.

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Re: 1997 BMW 525tds Touring Oldschool Install

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:49 pm
by brett.b10
Superb joerg. Inspiration to do my doors !