Greetings from the new home of Phoenix Gold, AAMP of America

Irongoats · Post by **Irongoats** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:21 pm

Welcome, you keep saying wait until CES so me being in Vegas I may try to score some tickets to check it out. Have to see if the network is still active.

Post by **ttocs** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:32 am

its james now since the germans got him.

Kinda ironic him harping on foreign made stuff when all he will work on is an import? He thinks a mustang or a camaro in the bay will taint it with cooties er something:)

I think you should personally aim to turn him back to the darkside. If you can turn him then everyone else should be easy.

jbondox · Post by **jbondox** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:23 am

ttocs wrote:its james now since the germans got him.

Kinda ironic him harping on foreign made stuff when all he will work on is an import? He thinks a mustang or a camaro in the bay will taint it with cooties er something:)

I think you should personally aim to turn him back to the darkside. If you can turn him then everyone else should be easy.

LOL,

first and foremost, if anyone can build an amp or speakers better than Audison or Hertz they win.. i am not talking about a onesie twosie type of product, I am talking the whole damn product line... phenomenal is all I can say.

as for the Germans, I am sorry, but once you see how these cars are built and put together, your perception would change also. everything is purpose built with no room for skimping, over built also. technologically more advanced when compared to the Asian or domestic market. sure some electronics come out of China, but the quality of the vehicles is freaking superior.

Chrysler did well there for a while, but obviously they were just milking Daimler, who paid a lot of money to shed Chrysler.

Quality... quality...quality.... and 99% of the client base is professionals. MB focuses on a market and markets to them, there is bleed over that allows them to market to other area's but they do it capitalizing on the main market.

what will be PG's new focus? kiddies? professionals? sound quality? SPL? hack shops? internet? with multiple mono block amps already in the works... I can guess....

I will go hug my audison amps and hump the mille woofer.... EM FTW since PG died.........

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:11 am

James, you have to admit though, you were pushing Rockford just a few years back, and other than good reliability they are just another "me too" product. Poor features, power, fit and finish.

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:12 am

if you really want to see the standard of comps in the EU, get yourselves over and check out an EMMA comp or two. I will try and find the vid from last year's finals, I think you might be surprised just how high the standard is.

Bret

Post by **stipud** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:17 am

bretti_kivi wrote:if you really want to see the standard of comps in the EU, get yourselves over and check out an EMMA comp or two. I will try and find the vid from last year's finals, I think you might be surprised just how high the standard is.

Bret

Having long listening periods in several IASCA and EMMA trophy cars, it's definitely a completely different world.

jbondox · Post by **jbondox** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:29 pm

Bret,

The standards you guys have over there are very high equipment wise. However I have seen some stupid installs, especially from the master Audison dealers which is a damn shame.

I believe the European market is geared toward sonic excellence, the Asians on gimmick features of electronics, and then the USA which has a chop shop every other corner and no standards.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:29 am

Guys go easy on Jim. He is a good guy and means well.

Lately, he also has to put up with watching the Cavs and Browns play on a regular basis. That just makes things worse

denim · Post by **denim** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:16 am

nico boom wrote:
denim wrote:Good to see you Zac, you found the purest and truest, English speaking PG fans. And if you decide you need an online dealer that is a stickler for selling at MAP pricing, please shoot me a PM or email.
ONLY THE ENGLISH SPEAKING????
Welcome here, and I just can't believe my eyes reading all this.
So we're about to witness a big change........

You are speaking English right there.

jbondox · Post by **jbondox** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:02 pm

MW3 wrote:Guys go easy on Jim. He is a good guy and means well.

Lately, he also has to put up with watching the Cavs and Browns play on a regular basis. That just makes things worse

I can take it especially if I dish it out

and the Browns... What a bunch of LOSERS! I gave up on them... Cavs look better.

bruther · Post by **bruther** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:50 am

jbondox wrote:
MW3 wrote:Guys go easy on Jim. He is a good guy and means well.

Lately, he also has to put up with watching the Cavs and Browns play on a regular basis. That just makes things worse
I can take it especially if I dish it out

and the Browns... What a bunch of LOSERS! I gave up on them... Cavs look better.

Never give up on the Browns..... I don't care how bad they get.

Irongoats · Post by **Irongoats** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:46 pm

I'd give up on the Browns especially with ManJudas coaching the team.

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:27 pm

im a pyscho!!!

welcome and yeah i been AWOL for ever, lucky im not still in the army, i would be a deserter.

i plan on being here more often since i may have more time now.

glad to see AAMPS is trying to make it work, good job to u all.

aloha

gentlejax2 · Post by **gentlejax2** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:27 pm

holy crap.....I stay away a while and missed this excellent news....

this is awesome

mudder · Post by **mudder** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:50 am

ZTwenty8SSR wrote:There is 1 really big thing I would really like to see

Phoenix gold products not made in china it is time to get back to made in USA.

That would be great.

pnyryd · Post by **pnyryd** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:39 am

Hell yes

Post by **smgreen20** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:30 pm

jbondox wrote: as for the Germans, I am sorry, but once you see how these cars are built and put together, your perception would change also. everything is purpose built with no room for skimping, over built also. technologically more advanced when compared to the Asian or domestic market. sure some electronics come out of China, but the quality of the vehicles is freaking superior.

After working at SIA building the Subaru Outback and the Legacy, I challenge one of the German companies to do what we do and at the high quality standards at which we build them.

The only edge that the Germans have on us is the time in which they take to build a single unit. My shift alone builds 257 units a shift. That's a car every 2 minutes rolling off the line ready to go. The Germans might get one of those off the line 1 in every 2 days.

Don't get me wrong, they make some of the greatest cars, SLR McLaren

my favorite.

I as well have never dissed things being made in china, it's the parts and design that make the product, not who does it. Yea I wish it were here in the USA, but what I wish doesn't mean sh!t.

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:49 pm

^have you ever been to the bmw factory in south Carolina? i think they would be up for challenge.

Post by **ttocs** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:58 pm

having taken a few bmw's and benzes apart and put them back together, as well as subaru's I have to agree with james on this. I can remember stuggling just to get teh 4 awg under the carpet and still getting the carpet to go back to its original position which is needed to put all the rest of the trim on. I can remember struggling for 45 mins just to find enough room to run a simple rca and remote wire through the dash........... As he said the tolerances are just much much tighter and make for a well put together car.

I do not recal struggling the subi's at all dealing with these issues, they have a whole set of their own. I don't think the germans are out to a billion good cars, they would rather make a million great ones.....

crx4spl · Post by **crx4spl** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:31 pm

Any news!