ti elite 12d

[Max2k7]

this is gong to sound stupid but am going to ask anyhow

i can get my hands on a ti elite 12d and just want to know if the
JL 500/1 would be ok to run it its not going to be used for spl
just pure SQ

thanks
Max

[Bfowler]

it will make sound....but really, you are better off spending less on a lower end woofer. even for pure sq, i dont think 500 is enough to move the cone far enough to reproduce lower notes, let alone those notes with the authority that sub is capable of

even for just my "everyday system" of sq'ish that can can loud enough to rattle my review if i want....1000watts is the minimum i would send to it. its really a power hungry sub.


if you can get your hands on a rsdc (or heck, i will probably get flamed for this, but on that power. a single Ryval 12 would be louder AND a better pure SQ option, and those go all day for 1/4th of what ti elites go for

and furthmore, the box bracing and weight alone of the ti elite is a pain, so if you arent going to give it even 50% of its rms power, its just not worth the hassle.

just my thoughts.

[kg1961]

here one very good price also
I agree they want a jl 1000/1 or 2 500/1
http://phoenixphorum.com/before-summer- ... 13438.html

he is a great seller also

[AVICJR]

I had mine on a X1200.1 and it barely had much excursion. Even w' 1 JL 1000/1 or (2) 500/1 it's still underpowering it. This is "my opinion" of course so take it how you want. I'd like to try one of the Ti2500.1's on it.

It's like buying a Ferrari and only driving it in a school zone.

[kg1961]

I had mine on a X1200.1 and it barely had much excursion. Even w' 1 JL 1000/1 or (2) 500/1 it's still underpowering it. This is "my opinion" of course so take it how you want. I'd like to try one of the Ti2500.1's on it.

really what volts of sound were you sending the amp 2.2v? I used mine off a jl 1000/1 and it hit hard but i also had a audio control over drive (line driver) sending the amp 8 volts

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[AVICJR]

I was assuming the 1000/1 had @ the same output as the X1200.1. I actually have (2) X1200.1's and was gonna put one on each VC. My HU was sending the amp 5 volts. I had a ton of problems w' it so I pulled it, but now I'm thinking of re-installing.

What is there actual output (1000/1)?

[kg1961]

they are a little underrated I would guess about 1200rms
there was a test of the 500/1 when they came out and it was doing max about 694 but I think that was at clipping

someone should buy my 2 focal fp800.1 strap them and run about 1600 into it it would sound great
I would sell them for 800 shipped in canada or the usa 48states

[AVICJR]

Like I said earlier I was having a ton of probs w' mine. It hit on the X1200.1 BUT, I know it would/could do much much more. I never got that low end authority that sub is famous for.

[kg1961]

just remeber the box is just as important and the sub and its power to.
best of luck they sound great IMO
hope your problem get taken care of

[12voltjunky]

I actually have (2) X1200.1's and was gonna put one on each VC.

Has anyone here run a seperate amp to each vc of a Ti Elite 12"?
What would it take to really push one of these, preferably using
PG Ti amps? maybe a pair of Ti 1000.2s?

[scottn29]

JL doesnt under rated their stuff, if it says 1000 watts then you can be sure it isnt 10% more than that at the rated specs, atleast thats what has been covered over on Diyma from Manville himself

[ttocs]

it is just such a heavy woofer to move that it takes some power.

[AVICJR]

Has anyone here run a seperate amp to each vc of a Ti Elite 12"?

Yes, brenzbmr@sb is running (2) MS2125's. 1 to each coil.

http://phoenixphorum.com/2-28-getting-there-vt4960.html

[12voltjunky]

Has anyone here run a seperate amp to each vc of a Ti Elite 12"?

Yes, brenzbmr@sb is running (2) MS2125's. 1 to each coil.

http://phoenixphorum.com/2-28-getting-there-vt4960.html

Do you know if he is pleased with the output?

[AVICJR]

Do you know if he is pleased with the output?

Read his second post in this thread. Mind you, he's been doing this for 20+ years.

http://phoenixphorum.com/ti-elite-subwo ... 13209.html

[oldskoolmseriesfan]

^^^lets just say he is slightly pleased He is a pro at spl systems from what I hear and read, I would love to fly to Hawaii just to hear this system, he says it hits like a line backer,goes down waaaaaaaaaaaay low and its loud enough youll be spittin your molars out

[brenzbmr@sb]

^^^lets just say he is slightly pleased He is a pro at spl systems from what I hear and read, I would love to fly to Hawaii just to hear this system, he says it hits like a line backer,goes down waaaaaaaaaaaay low and its loud enough youll be spittin your molars out

OMG!!!

actually its like this...

this lexus hits lower and strong as hell below 35hz then any other system i ever done...

single 12 running 1 ms2125 atm has some serious output.

its a low bass monster and if anyone does come to hawaii i would be more then happy to let u all get a demo.

its really hard to explain but everyone that sits in it or stands outside of it are in awe because they dont believe its one 12

man i wish i lived in the states so u all could hear it..

MORGAN im still w8 for your answer about coming here.

anyway if am i happy with it...well i built tighter sounding systems in the past but hands down this is the most impressive i have done..

136 db on term lab at 30hz... 800 watts.

thats crazy.

my doors look like they wanna come off on certain songs but keep in mind this plays low bass like a beast and plays upper bass like a girl scout.


aloha

[scottn29]

^^^lets just say he is slightly pleased He is a pro at spl systems from what I hear and read, I would love to fly to Hawaii just to hear this system, he says it hits like a line backer,goes down waaaaaaaaaaaay low and its loud enough youll be spittin your molars out

OMG!!!

actually its like this...

this lexus hits lower and strong as hell below 35hz then any other system i ever done...

single 12 running 1 ms2125 atm has some serious output.

its a low bass monster and if anyone does come to hawaii i would be more then happy to let u all get a demo.

its really hard to explain but everyone that sits in it or stands outside of it are in awe because they dont believe its one 12

man i wish i lived in the states so u all could hear it..

MORGAN im still w8 for your answer about coming here.

anyway if am i happy with it...well i built tighter sounding systems in the past but hands down this is the most impressive i have done..

136 db on term lab at 30hz... 800 watts.

thats crazy.

my doors look like they wanna come off on certain songs but keep in mind this plays low bass like a beast and plays upper bass like a girl scout.


aloha

How big is your box and whats it tuned to? I did not see it in your thread.

[eazy-e]

is it a sealed box? ported what ?

[oldskoolmseriesfan]

136db at 30hz......... holy christ

[todd217]

if these will do all that why are they not used by more people besides the need some serious power? i have been tempted to buy one.

[12voltjunky]

if these will do all that why are they not used by more people besides the need some serious power? i have been tempted to buy one.

Same here
Anymore testimonials for this beast

[brenzbmr@sb]

if these will do all that why are they not used by more people besides the need some serious power? i have been tempted to buy one.

Same here
Anymore testimonials for this beast

its what is told to consumers...

its a power hungry sub, or u need lots of power,

the problem is not that its power hungry its that its not very effecient compared to other 12s in the upper bass range where most of the music plays at..

but if u were to just put it in a sealed box and play music in it u would notice that low end is kinda authoritive..

but it lacks in upper bass and u find that u run lots of power to get any real volume out of it..but it does rumble.

now stick it in a ported box and tune to 33hz (2.75 cubes)

big difference way more output and execessively loud on passages around 35 hz and down.

still not a "street type of sub"which is what the market is geared toward.

I think the run on that sub was only 2 years so it didnt get a whole lot of
market time before it was pulled.

that was the time JL w7 came out and MTX was doing there 9500 release

so the pg was kinda in the dark.

[brenzbmr@sb]

How big is your box and whats it tuned to? I did not see it in your thread.

hmm look under my usename i have build pics of it on here bout two years ago..easy to find under intalls

its 4.1 cubic ft tuned at around 31hz.

[brenzbmr@sb]

hmm probably didnt hear much of it because not to many people use low bass type drivers. most people idea of real low bass is fluttering at 25hz.

i been doing this for a long time and i have figured out different applications that best suit what im am trying to accomplish.

i am in no way an spl god...i hate spl to be blunt. i hate the crap that comes out from it and the egos that spawn from the lame peeps who think because they can hit 160 they are godly.

I on the other hand like the old school mentality of "ground poundin"

I like to impress with less...thats been my style for a long time.

i have taken lots of time in the enclosure design for my lex to capitolize on getting it to hit low bass strong with a minimal amount of power..

my goal was to hit 135db at 30hz with less then 1k of power to basically shut some ass munch down on a lex forum.

i picked the elite 12 because it was a naturally bottom heavy sub to begin with and i modled so many different alignments to get what wanted with out

costing me an arm and a leg.

the reason i used my (nico ty) ms 2125s is because they are a very natural sounding amp and compared to the titanium 1000.2 they sounded better.


as far as my box size i can tell u its 4 cubic ft tuned at 31 hz iirc.

weather thats gonna get u the results i have i cant say for sure since i went really deep into pathlengths and also 1/4 wave ideas.

thats why my ports are on the rear deck.

what i am looking for now is two zpa 0.5s (not finacially ready yet but am putting out feelers)
for my next progect which will make my lex sound subtle..

i wanna use 2 elites in a different car for some serious low end rumble.

i wanna use zpa cause those amps are "unique"