Eclipse 7200 MkII USB question

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Eclipse 7200 MkII USB question

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I assume that anyone with a somewhat recent Eclipse HU with USB support might be able to chime in, but the 7200 is what I am fighting with...

Here is the deal, a few days ago I put a bunch of my music on a old 4gb flash drive and tried the USB interface on the Eclipse for the first time. While it works fine, and plays fine, the issue is this: The file names and folder names are fuckered up. It looks like the HU has no long file name support (you know, the way file names got truncated on WinMe when they were written with an OS with long file name support) This leads to file names and folder names that look something like this RAP~0123.mp3. If I burn the exact same files to a CD, the names and folder names all display correctly. Anyhow, I found out from searching online that I am not the only one that this has happened to w/ the eclipse USB interface. I found that there is a way to make the HU display track's ID3 tags as a workaround, but while this works if you have your ID3's all setup right, it still doesn't help w/ the folder name issue, and the HU still insists on scrolling the actual file name 1x before it switches to the ID3 tag. It makes it about impossible to navigate the USB music...

Anyhow, I think I know the issue, but I don't know what to do to make it work. The Instruction manual for the HU has only two brief pages on USB where it mentions the USB format needs to be ISO9660 for the HU to properly read the data. I think that the HU wants the volume descriptor found in ISO9660 format to properly display the directory and file info. Here's the rub, ISO9660 is read only CDFS file format. From what I can tell, it is almost impossible to get CDFS on a flash drive w/o a lot of hacks or some special USB drives out there. From what I am reading, even if I were to write my music to an ISO and then dump it to the flash drive, it is highly unlikely that it will result in a usable drive. I have only found one account of someone getting this method to work. Even if it does, it is a ton of bull shit to get your music on the drive and to keep it up to date w/ your collection.

So, who has an eclipse, do you use the USB and how do you write your files to USB. I'm wondering if you need to use some sort of "sync" like found in Itunes, I tried "syncing" the drive with WMA and it didn't help at all...

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Apparently if you hold down the "Text" button, it will display the whole, correct text. But it's kind of stupid and useless if you have to do that each time.
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No, if you hold down the text button until it beeps, it switches to the ID3 tag, it will display that for every file after that, but it displays the actual file name first, and the ID3's don't help for folder names...

What I don't understand is if Eclipse just didn't think this through, or if they thought it would be easy enough that it is just "understood". I don't know how the rest of you put music on a flash drive, but I just copy what I want and organize it per folder however I prefer.

I'm going to DL the rest of the recent model manuals and see if they contain any more info than mine does...

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Jacampb2 wrote:No, if you hold down the text button until it beeps, it switches to the ID3 tag, it will display that for every file after that, but it displays the actual file name first, and the ID3's don't help for folder names...

What I don't understand is if Eclipse just didn't think this through, or if they thought it would be easy enough that it is just "understood". I don't know how the rest of you put music on a flash drive, but I just copy what I want and organize it per folder however I prefer.

I'm going to DL the rest of the recent model manuals and see if they contain any more info than mine does...

Thanks,
Jason
Ah, good catch. I was just regurgitating something from another forum which I'm sure was obvious. Someone on DIYMA posted a response from Eclipse where he asked your question (among others) and the response said that it will only display the filenames with that lame truncating. Not sure if that's the last word on it, though (again, obviously).
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