problem with Audio Art 200.2

[Nico156]

Sending it back was the first option dueche.......always has been with me, anyone who's dealt with me knows that..YOU WANTED TO KEEP IT......especially when I sold you that amp for $120...I mean come one, I could resell that amp for almost $300, I sold it cheap so I could buy something else...not like I made any money to begin with.

I won't deny for one second that I led you on, worked well didn't it......you can't do shit with PayPal now, and it looks like there is good reason for me leading you on.....so.....

It is in my best interest to watch my ass



and all this talk of colors, the Audio Art 200.2 I sold him was black as shown in the buy/sell area.

RANDY LIES as common..
1)
he didn't propose me a send it back..
you know I ask him several time to prove this but it didn't mind about..
I HAVE all the pms if a mod want to come and see is welcome, Randy NEVER told me about a send it back..

2)
I pay 169 usd shipped..
In the original thread he ask 80 shipped to usa..
So whats up Randy??
Do you ask me 120 for the amp and 49 for the ship?
You told me shipping would cost 90...

RANDY DON'T UNDERSTAND as common..
You sold me a brown amp not black..
I ship a white amp to tech to help him found problem..
So he repair the brown amp..
It's simple and I've already told you several times..

1
I asked you what you wanted to do, send it back, or keep it.....you wanted to keep it, hacking it and modifying it was not part of the deal.
I'm sorry I can't take screenshots because I sold you this amp on July 12th....I've bought and sold more than dozen amps since then, plus I have some custom work getting done and I just don't have pm's that old in my inbox.

2
I forgot I lowered the price to $80
shipping was $90, I gave you two options remember, the cheap way, or the good way, the good way costs more.
That fucking amp right there, is BLACK....or am I color blind now ?

1
False babe.. I never decide to keep hack lick smack or whatever you said.. screenshots of pms show what we decide to do that time..
now you don't have the pms prove to watch your ass??

2
yes you're really blind and not serious at all..
Audio art never do a black 200.2

[Nico156]

the 2 pic do look very differnt the glue on the caps, fuse ,rub marks on the heat sinks in the upper middle were the brown/black art amp case is
and this i looking for less than a mintue.
The only thing that make me think it might be the same amp is the amount of solder on the speaker termails the first one lowest. I would love to see pics on amp guts. But the first amp sold pics doesn't have the damaged transitor that had burn marks??
I don't know guys I would say 2 differnt amps bu thats me

I seems like this is just going to name calling and fourm bs from here out
so i will not be reading this any more

Find difference will never be your work man

[kg1961]

I can say the speaker termanal area on all of the audio art 200.2 have the extra solder for some reason?
here are some other pics
i found on line
http://ampguts.com/gallery/showphoto.ph ... de&cat=237
over 25 euro I can't believe 2 grown man are fighting over for this long..
guys i one trip to the movies or a sheet of mdf cost that.
what you time stress, maybe names damaged ect worth? to me its not worth it but you 2 are not me

[gbody805]

First of all OLD MAN.

I have read thru the entire post.
There has been links to your repair work!

First option was to return the amp to me, he wanted to keep it b/c he has another one of these amps. First he said the amplifier had sound, but that it wasn't loud enough....both channels worked though. Then he begin taking the amplifier all apart. In this thread.

http://forum.audiocarstereo.it/showthread.php?t=21779

Funny all the posts have been edited now, like I can't see that.

He took like 3/4 of the parts off the board, before he edited all those posts.

Or did you forget this one.
Of course you have edited them but that's another story right.

Second you posted you recieved the amp back from the Tech.
If those were actually the photos.
That board looks nothing like the board you bought

So one of two explaination can be given.
1st. You Tech has no talent and should never be left alone with another amp ever.

Or second : your tech returned what he was given. A pile of crap the had been worked on by a amature.
Which one was it?
One or two?

the two big caps changement (and also the other small ones on the right) and vision of the board eaten by leaking. Photo show it I can't lie. Sorry but I can't show you pics in pm.

The leaking cap damage you say was there in not there in the first photos from the original sale thread.

And before you say it, Yes the cap is covering the said damage but what about the discolored trace outside the cap's coverage
One of the hints that someone who in fact didn't know what they were doing had tried something they should not have.
So who was it? You or your tech that discolored the trace with heat?
Remember "you can't lie"

Ohhh I love these games, I'll play

The trace damage in pic one is not there in pic two.
If you look in Pic two the gold trace around the two silver solder spots are clean and the corner of the trace is clean also.

In pic one the trace around the spots and the corner and pretty much the whole trace under the cap is not clean anymore.

What did I win

What trace damage?
In the post before I talk about a mark, did you find it? That is the prove that is the same board.. it's a mark inside the compound of the board.. no one can done it after.. maybe jesus, but I'm not jesus at all

You can not argue about the place where tech remove cap, there he has done him work, he couldn't leave the place exactly clean as before

You ask about what damage.
What the hell man are you blind! The large lighter colored part of the trace.
It is in fact the same color before, now it's two different colors.
So now it's the tech who burned the board.

Another question you might be able to answer.
Why would you get back a fixed amp with parts missing?
Where are the caps at?
How did the Tech fix the amp with missing caps?
Did he remove them after he fixed them?
Why would he do that?
Another hint that something isn't right here.

Given what you said , that this is the same board. What the hell happened to it.

Either you or the Tech you used nearly destroyed it.
If it was the tech, my good man how can you trust anything he says.
He did a horrible job on you amp and should be held accountable.

Someone on your end did a horrible job.

Now as too who it was you or your tech. Unless you actually stop running around the truth we'll never know.

As for me I'm done with this.

As far as I'm concerned.

You bought an amp.
You took said amp apart without knowing what the hell you were doing.
You did a Hack job and then sent it to get fixed.

Now you want the seller to pay for your hack job.

Plain and simple.

As was said by another member here.

WHAT THE FUCK EVER

And yes I'm more likely to believe him over some kid that thought he could walk on water.

[ttocs]

if those are the pics that were in the for sale add, they do not seem to match his before pics. I am still leaning to believe that he had a bad amp, bought a good one and now wants to try and scam you for the bad one. You don't have a pic of the serial number do you randy? I think he is trying to get is other amp fixed on your dime personally.

[dBincognito]

I can say the speaker termanal area on all of the audio art 200.2 have the extra solder for some reason?
here are some other pics
i found on line
http://ampguts.com/gallery/showphoto.ph ... de&cat=237
over 25 euro I can't believe 2 grown man are fighting over for this long..
guys i one trip to the movies or a sheet of mdf cost that.
what you time stress, maybe names damaged ect worth? to me its not worth it but you 2 are not me

He wants 70 Euros.....more than I sold the amp for.

[kg1961]

if those are the pics that were in the for sale add, they do not seem to match his before pics. I am still leaning to believe that he had a bad amp, bought a good one and now wants to try and scam you for the bad one. You don't have a pic of the serial number do you randy? I think he is trying to get is other amp fixed on your dime personally.

I didn't want to say it but this is the best way to put thanks
ttocs
I think the serial on these amps are on the back cover not the boards
or maybe on the back side of the amp board
but they are stickers and if heated onthe baord can be remove or switched
like i said over 25euro

[dBincognito]

if those are the pics that were in the for sale add, they do not seem to match his before pics. I am still leaning to believe that he had a bad amp, bought a good one and now wants to try and scam you for the bad one. You don't have a pic of the serial number do you randy? I think he is trying to get is other amp fixed on your dime personally.

I didn't want to say it but this is the best way to put thanks
ttocs
I think the serial on these amps are on the back cover not the boards
or maybe on the back side of the amp board
but they are stickers and if heated onthe baord can be remove or switched
like i said over 25euro

Correct, serial numbers are on the back cover with these amps, not on the boards.

and it's 75 Euros, which is 90 USD, I sold the amp...in good condition for 80 USD


It's really a matter of principle, not money.....I'm buying a whole set of Ti amps right now, a MS2125, and I'm mailing everything I own to another state....money is not the issue at all.

[kg1961]

sorry I thought some were it was 25 euro...
with that being said I would be going to the tech for trashing my amp!!!!!!!!!!! working or not that is not worth 7euro let alone more ...
Did you ask WTF the tech did you your amp?

and before you ask WTF it means WHAT THE FUCK

so what is the real leason here? Buying used can mean it can get damaged in shipping if it really did, and don't try to fix something if you don't know how. Also don't pay someone to fix if they can't make it look oem

[gridracer]

The best question asked here yet is how do you have pics of the amp after "the tech" repaired it yet the board is no where near completly repaired? The fact is you are "the tech" and either wrecked this amp or are trying to get money for a different amp you already owned that needed repair.

Also you still have not explained how that resistor is not burnt in the before pic but yet its burnt in the after pic of the half repaired hacked up board explain that burnt resistor if the amp is fixed?

Like I said early this morning of course there is a lot of similarities its a mass produced amp but there are too many things moved around or changed that make your story not believable.

Lets see pics of the board on the white amp you also sent to tech so we can compare that one too,prove you didn't swap it.

I have nothing to gain here I don't know randy at all and have never even spoke with him other than to ask him 1 question about caps on my 2125 I just see the pics telling a different story than your mouth.

Seriously if you paid a tech 70 euro for that kind of crappy work you got scammed by the tech.

Oh and before you question my age and call me a kid I am 38 years old young man and Gbody is not a kid either.
If you think we all just ganging up on you as joke to help randy tell me why as a forum when someone posts they got stuff stolen we get together as a group and donate money to help somone we don't know get his stuff fixed,why did the forum get together as a group and send me $300 worth of gifts when I was in the hospital fighting for my life 6 months ago?This is one of the best forums out there and scamming iis not a part of it in anyway.
So be honest youre not telling the whole story here.

[Nico156]

sorry I can't spend my life proving you are blind or crazy, it's you're business..

Too many person accusing me only for my little number of post.. so stupid.. so hard to work about.. I already lost 70 euro and a lot of time in this scam Randy did me (ok.. knowing or not knowing what he's doing)..

You have all the elements in this thread to understand my reason and to believe in me.

yes men, all the last questions have already an answer in the thread!

maybe you want a FAQ section??

bye

[gbody805]

Alright.
If I understand you right.

Those are the pics of the amp after you got the amp back from your Tech? Right?

Take time out of your busy day and answer just one question.

How in the hell did he test a amp with missing parts from the board.

[shaheen]

Looking at the 2 board posted as your "original" pictures, there are more then just the big caps which are different, the smaller caps are changed too some are orange in one pic and the others are blue, These caps usually never need replacing as they hold very little current and are buffers.

Why would your tech change these. I have never needed to , added to that some of the componets are mouthed the other way around, some of the smaller transistors are flat some are standing up ,too many inconsistanies between the 2 borads to let me believe they are the same.

If they are in fact the same then my friend you got a bargin for what he charged as he would need to rebuild the entire amp based on the parts I see as being changed.

[eulogious]

This was a good read, got a good laugh out of it Thanks all!

[gridracer]

I still wanna know the answers to my 2 questions in my last post.

[holmis]

Well he said he first sent the broken amp, then the good one off to the tech... I think that tells it all by the pics...

He prob had a broken amp, then this amp comes up for sale & he buys it.... after reciving the new good amp, tryes to get his cost of the repair of his old amp covered...

That is what this looks like..... SCAM

[gbody805]

Damn holmis,
For a second I thought this turdcutter had actually come back to answer.

[holmis]

BOOOO !!