Cutting diodes on zeropoint 0.5 ?

[shawn k]

I don't know how long you have been involved with internet forums, but it is very common for a topic to change in a thread. The original poster of this thread had their question answered within the first few responses.

So true

If you don't like that the topic has changed, you are not obligated to continue reading it.

True again

Besides, it is a lot less respectable for someone to go and start a new thread titled "The Golden One is a complete moron", than it is to just call The Golden One out on his complete BS within a thread relevant to the BS he is shoveling...

True and LMFAO!.... Amen

[marko]

as to the answer to the original question, I think cutting the diodes is asking for trouble, your over stressing the amp by asking it to do something PG never intended, I would be very cautious about buying an amp that had been ran in this way.. just my 2p worth.

[holmis]

Besides, it is a lot less respectable for someone to go and start a new thread titled "The Golden One is a complete moron", than it is to just call The Golden One out on his complete BS within a thread relevant to the BS he is shoveling...

agree !

[The Golden One]

yea look inside of this advanced technology fred flintstone hand signed it, prehistoric baconbit-microchip scrap junk, that's some technology.

[ttocs]

how old are you? Who are the salesmen-audiophiles that educated you?'

I guess the T-class digital chip amps are crap too then by that description?

[The Golden One]

i think that the pot metal heatsink and the cast iron circuit board were both invented buy fosgate, they were way ahead of their time.

[shawn k]

yea look inside of this advanced technology fred flintstone hand signed it, prehistoric baconbit-microchip scrap junk, some technology. http://ampguts.com/forum/attachments/ro ... shot_1-jpg here's some more advanced technology http://ampguts.com/forum/attachments/ro ... bc09ba-jpg

ahhhh... what else do you expect from an amplifier made back in the mid 80's??? I assure you that all amps/brands from this era looked like this

So how can you possibly compare an RF amp that was made many years before the very first PG amp was ever even conceived of?

oh and... LOL @ "cast iron circuit board" I would be quite impressed if this were actually true!

[ttocs]

I am really starting to think this has been the longest running trolling session that we have just never picked up on. I really think he had us going all this time. The more I think about it after all this time, that is the only thing that could make sence.

golden troll has a nice ring to it huh?

[oldskoolmseriesfan]

I am really starting to think this has been the longest running trolling session that we have just never picked up on. I really think he had us going all this time. The more I think about it after all this time, that is the only thing that could make sence.

golden troll has a nice ring to it huh?

more like GOLDEN DOUCHE BAG !!!!

[Eric D]

Actually, what is so bad about the photo of that Punch 45 MOSFET? I think the MS250 was PG's first amp, so lets make some comparisons...

-It has loose wires all over, just like a PG MS250.
-It has an extruded aluminum heatsink just like a PG MS250.
-It has steel ends just like a MS250, which rust all to hell in no time and look like crap.
-It has separate left and right gain control, unlike the MS250 which only has a single control, and its outputs are always slightly different in level.
-It has Bass and Treble controls, whereas the MS250 only has a Bass control.

Heck, the more you look at it, the Punch 45 MOSFET is actually AHEAD of the MS250 technology wise.

The only thing the MS250 has over it is power. But, that Punch 45 is around 50% the physical size of the MS250. Maybe even smaller. So, what would be better, one MS250, or a pair of Punch 45 MOSFETs in the same space?

[The Golden One]

here's that 'surface mount technology' so tell us how it makes the HEAT from all the 'DISTORTION' escape the POT METAL heatsink

[ttocs]

well genius if you look the fets are mounted to the heatsink and they bleed their heat into it. AND AGAIN WE HAVE ALL AGREED BY THIS TIME THEY WERE PAST THIER PRIME............

Besides what the hell is the big deal is the heatsink supposed to be made of gold to satisfy an audiofile?

[Eric D]

Potmetal heatsink? I think you mean cast aluminum. Big difference there.

The fins are what let the heat radiate from the internal components. However, it is kind of well known in the industry that Rockford amps get scorching hot, as their paint tends to hold the heat in. Early RF amps had fan shrouds (like the famous Power 1000). When RF went with the "black and grind" finish some time in the 90's, the amps dumped heat better. They then went with fans on and off over the years, but either way these amps were all very reliable. Especially considering the quantities sold. At one point RF was so big they actually sold more amps than most of the rest of the industry combined. They were power players in the car audio market, and although they are likely not where they were, they still do well. The industry as a whole has fallen in the past several years.

[Eric D]

Here is some more surface mount technology on a Rockford Fosgate amp...

O, wait a minute, this is a PG amp!

[ttocs]

OMG!

[Eric D]

Here is another PG amp. Look at all that surface mount. Don't you just love technology?

[ttocs]

your making it all up!

[Eric D]

Here is an Exile amp. Guess what, they use surface mount too!

I am getting the impression Rockford Fosgate pioneered the use of surface mount, and everyone has been jumping on the bandwagon to follow their lead...

[shawn k]

I am getting the impression Rockford Fosgate pioneered the use of surface mount, and everyone has been jumping on the bandwagon to follow their lead...

Precisely my point!

And thanks for the pics. I was too lazy to post some myself

[The Golden One]

i took inside my zpa's no shiitty surface mount in them nor any in my ms amp's and they sound better than all your lamebrain sissy boy punk amp's all you are are a bunch of fosgate loving puff brain idiots.

[marko]

what is so bad about surface mount components? FWIW i have 5 RF amps in the silver/gold style and they rock!! that makes me a lamebrain sissy boy punk then I guess

[oldskoolmseriesfan]

what is so bad about surface mount components? FWIW i have 5 RF amps in the silver/gold style and they rock!! that makes me a lamebrain sissy boy punk then I guess

What ever marko you know nothing about car audio

[shawn k]

i took inside my zpa's no shiitty surface mount in them nor any in my ms amp's and they sound better than all your lamebrain sissy boy punk amp's all you are are a bunch of fosgate loving puff brain idiots.

Wow just Wow

Your ignorance yet again becomes you

[ttocs]

that would about cover it, or does he become his ignorance? deep thoughts, dunno.

[Eric D]

i took inside my zpa's no shiitty surface mount in them nor any in my ms amp's and they sound better than all your lamebrain sissy boy punk amp's all you are are a bunch of fosgate loving puff brain idiots.

Why is surface mount so bad?

Give us one, just one solid reason why you feel this way. And "because you say so" is not a solid reason.

I want to see a reason which you can actually back up with some real information.

Just because a guy in the back row of your special needs class told you surface mount is junk does not make that a valid reason either...