PG EQ 215X

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soth
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PG EQ 215X

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Got a small question.

The R-Nets in my ax406A are 70, 90, 425 if I recall correctly.
The R-Net in the 215X is a 90.

If I use the HP Output on the 215X to connect to an amplifier that has a 24db built in x-over will it be full signal going to the amp? I need to cross the horns around 1000 or so and run my midbass from 70-250(300)

Right now I'm using the aux output -> ax406A -> amp1, amp2, amp3

I need to change the x-over frequences for the midbass and horns and figured since the other two amps have built in x-overs it would be easier than buying the rnets and replacing them.

Thanks,

Kevin
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Thanks Zeropoint. I looked in the manual and it really didn't say anything about what freq the LP/HP used if connecting it directly to an amp. I'm probably over complicating this anyway, but if it would just dish out a full signal then I could control the x-over on the other amp and be set.

Kevin
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soth wrote:Thanks Zeropoint. I looked in the manual and it really didn't say anything about what freq the LP/HP used if connecting it directly to an amp. I'm probably over complicating this anyway, but if it would just dish out a full signal then I could control the x-over on the other amp and be set.

Kevin
it seems to be very simple..... you want a fullrange signal, you need the AUX output.

high and lowpass outputs will give you (standard) a 90hz high/lowpass signal....with the factory Rnet in it.....

witch amps do you have ?? zx series ??
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That's one reason I just used the aux to go to my ax406a so I could control it there. I had to sell my 2125 and 2240 awhile back (both were mint) too so now I have a 500.4 and the 2500. 2500 for the subs and 500.4 for horns and midbass/midrange.

The CD1E v1's are a peizo driver so it naturally rolls off, but I will be upgrading those drivers with better ones shortly and need a x-over point around 900-1100.

If the LP/HP just uses the standard 90hz +/- to let those frequences go through then I'd still be able to controll it via the 500.4 np.

kevin
Head Unit: Eclipse CD5000
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Amp2: MPS2500
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High/Mids: ID CD1-E v1 Horns
Midbass: IDQ 6.5 v2
Subs: IDQ 12 v1
EQ: PG EQ215-X
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If needed, you can always change out the Rnetworks...
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soth wrote:That's one reason I just used the aux to go to my ax406a so I could control it there. I had to sell my 2125 and 2240 awhile back (both were mint) too so now I have a 500.4 and the 2500. 2500 for the subs and 500.4 for horns and midbass/midrange.

The CD1E v1's are a peizo driver so it naturally rolls off, but I will be upgrading those drivers with better ones shortly and need a x-over point around 900-1100.

If the LP/HP just uses the standard 90hz +/- to let those frequences go through then I'd still be able to controll it via the 500.4 np.

kevin
Yes, if you use the HP at 90 hz, you can controll the crossover point on the 500.4 to get your 900-1100hz crossover point, but your crossover slope will now be at 48db/oct instead of 24db/oct, so keep that in mind when tuning. I do something similar with my system. My subwoofer amplifier is low pass ONLY, no option to bypass but I also control the crossover point/slope/phase for the subwoofer through the headunit, essentially providing a steeper crossover slope.
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Re: PG EQ 215X

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trickyricky wrote:If needed, you can always change out the Rnetworks...
True. That was my first thought on ordering or building the ones I need. Then I thought about bypassing and letting the 500.4 do it instead.

ty,

kevin
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Amp2: MPS2500
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dwnrodeo wrote:
soth wrote:That's one reason I just used the aux to go to my ax406a so I could control it there. I had to sell my 2125 and 2240 awhile back (both were mint) too so now I have a 500.4 and the 2500. 2500 for the subs and 500.4 for horns and midbass/midrange.

The CD1E v1's are a peizo driver so it naturally rolls off, but I will be upgrading those drivers with better ones shortly and need a x-over point around 900-1100.

If the LP/HP just uses the standard 90hz +/- to let those frequences go through then I'd still be able to controll it via the 500.4 np.

kevin
Yes, if you use the HP at 90 hz, you can controll the crossover point on the 500.4 to get your 900-1100hz crossover point, but your crossover slope will now be at 48db/oct instead of 24db/oct, so keep that in mind when tuning. I do something similar with my system. My subwoofer amplifier is low pass ONLY, no option to bypass but I also control the crossover point/slope/phase for the subwoofer through the headunit, essentially providing a steeper crossover slope.
That would work also. I may go ahead and give this a try first.

ty,

kevin
Head Unit: Eclipse CD5000
Amp1: Ti 500.4
Amp2: MPS2500
Crossover: Audiocontrol 6xs
High/Mids: ID CD1-E v1 Horns
Midbass: IDQ 6.5 v2
Subs: IDQ 12 v1
EQ: PG EQ215-X
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