cyclone IB?

marko · Post by **marko** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:22 am

is it possible to have the cyclone mounted ib? i mean proper ib so it's working out of the car floor!

think this is an insane idea

Post by **Bfowler** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:50 am

you mean so one side is on the out side of the car.....

marko · Post by **marko** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:08 pm

Bfowler wrote:you mean so one side is on the out side of the car.....

yes...

Post by **Wakeup** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:30 pm

hmmm....weird...I dunno, I'd think that would be crazy....I am getting a second cyclone in really soon!

nick-caper · Post by **nick-caper** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:54 pm

No Dont do it. You are thinking of an Aperiodic setup that the Cyclone wouldnt work in. It might work good if you used the trunk as the enclosure and the Cyclone fired into the drivers cabin from the rear deck.

444 FED · Post by **444 FED** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:39 pm

nick-caper wrote:No Dont do it. You are thinking of an Aperiodic setup that the Cyclone wouldnt work in. It might work good if you used the trunk as the enclosure and the Cyclone fired into the drivers cabin from the rear deck.

That's not an Aperiodic that he is refering to, he's talking "true infinate baffle".

The world is your subbox?

Hmmm

I would not recommend it myself, I can see the power handling going right out the floor (pun?) and having less than satifactory results, due to the enclosure now being the interior of the car and is grossly oversized for the driver, it's also not very sealed, and will change with the opening of the windows and such, changing the tuning of the "enclosure" pretty much at random.

nick-caper · Post by **nick-caper** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:39 pm

Why would you open a hole in the trunk to let trash and water in? I read about aperiodic setups that are opened to the atmosphere but they are in an Aperiodic enclosure on one side which acts as a sealed enclosure. The setup you talking about is just not gonna happen.

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:04 am

actually i dont see why you cant make it apereodic.
if you can isolate the rear wave from the front wave and make a membrane that sits on the back side of the sub then it would work fine.

the elements would fuck up the sub in the long run but if it is only for show then it would be fine.

i personally wouldnt do it and jsut put that thing in 3 + cubic ft tuned low..
buy some seriously good 10s to pick up the higher notes and rock on.

Post by **bdubs767** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:16 am

brenzbmr@sb wrote: i personally wouldnt do it and jsut put that thing in 3 + cubic ft tuned low..
buy some seriously good 10s to pick up the higher notes and rock on.

go with that...

gratest1 · Post by **gratest1** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:29 pm

Ummm.. I am currently playing with 2 cyclones IB. They play well. literally installed 3 x 600.2's. 1 on 2 cyclones, and they work smooth. low bass is phenom and controlled. Power handling is sacrificed a bit but when you have 2 that is plenty air movement. Still playing but the bottom line is they play low and loud in this configaration. the boot internal volume is around 6 cu ft. So i guess its like a high loss sealed box...

Marko i'll have to catch you at a show sometime.

marko · Post by **marko** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:39 pm

i'll be at source this month so if your there i'll pop over for a chat

not sure if i'm competing yet.....

gratest1 · Post by **gratest1** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:48 pm

Marko will be good to catch up. Spent some time with Bill Hasbrook. You may of heard of him. He took danley's design and made it nearly manufacturable. He gave me a tutorial on taking them apart and cleaning them..... Yes we can now service our clones in the uk. Great experience. Learnt loads from him... See pic. This was th BNIB one. He said when they stand any particals that come off the neodiums oxidise when left standing for a while...

Post by **Wakeup** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:00 pm

I gotta take my spare cyclone apart...any pointers? I see the 4 hex longgggg screws....and two smaller ones ( i dont have a tool for the smaller ones yet).
But other than that any other things I should know? or do I even need to take the 2 smallers ones out?

Post by **Wakeup** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:00 pm

In fact I'll start my own question section on it!

so as to not tread on your thread!

LeggoMyEggo · Post by **LeggoMyEggo** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:48 pm

marko wrote:is it possible to have the cyclone mounted ib? i mean proper ib so it's working out of the car floor!

think this is an insane idea

Cyclones are capable of producing elephant mating calls. Therefore, if mounted IB, you would risk a stampede from every circus within 100 km. Probably not a good idea

marko · Post by **marko** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:19 pm

Wakeup wrote:In fact I'll start my own question section on it! so as to not tread on your thread!

i don't mind at all mate!

Post by **Wakeup** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:35 pm

ty! Keep us up to date on your install...I wish i'd get a chance to hear it...but may not ever get to from out here!

marko · Post by **marko** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:54 pm

i do need to update it as i've swapped the KEF x-over for a ppi frx-456

gratest1 · Post by **gratest1** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:24 am

Wakeup, there is no harm in treading on thread. As for pointers. When I have a bit more time I will do a cleaning how to. ITs so important. The four hex bolts at top hold cap. The clamp in the cap holds the torsion bar. the hex screws are us equiv to a 4mm allen key. The lead in wires are connected to the posts. These are fragile so be careful and if broke can't be rplaced as they go into the stator.

You then see what is in the pic also if there noisey you will see a build up of magnetic fur. over the magnets. This is what needs cleaning. But you have to pull the stator out. This is the tricky bit cos the force is immense. I will talk this thorugh later.

I hope this is a start and hopefully we can service our own cyc's to a point. It was good chatting to Bill Hasbrook. He was excellent.

Post by **Wakeup** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:00 am

thanks! I'll be as carful as i can...I wont be attempting this for a few days, or maybe a week or so.

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