Sneak Peek

Post by **Bfowler** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:30 pm

ttocs wrote:it can really fill in a low end like no 12 or 15 can.

how many xenon 10's in 1.8cf boxes have you listened too?

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:08 am

dwnrodeo wrote:Looking very good Morgan! Are the pots detented like the Xenons or are they like the current RSD pots? They look to be like the RSD pots.

Detented pots for the high powered line. Non-detented for the "affordable" line.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:10 am

Mackenzie wrote:Still didnt clarify if you will have 15s. All that was said was 15+ is possible.

No 15's at the launch at CES.

But be patient we will addressing that end of the market.

dwnrodeo · Post by **dwnrodeo** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:20 am

MW3 wrote:
dwnrodeo wrote:Looking very good Morgan! Are the pots detented like the Xenons or are they like the current RSD pots? They look to be like the RSD pots.
Detented pots for the high powered line. Non-detented for the "affordable" line.

Cool! I always liked the precision adjustments of my Xenon amps and am glad that was incorporated into the design of the new amps.

Topdown · Post by **Topdown** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 am

"powerful" line versus "affordable" line...

Do we get to see pictures from the "Sound Quality" line?

My MS275 and MS2150 (which are both old enough to drive themselves now and one of which is old enough to vote!) are easily the best SQ amps I have ever used (hundreds of setups over the years) - but I wouldnt qualify it as the "powerful" line and when I bought it back in 91/92 for 1200.00 it was most definitely not a "budget" line.

So, while I havent been on this forum for a long time like a lot of these guys, I have been an Old PG Faithful for a long time.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:52 am

Topdown wrote:"powerful" line versus "affordable" line...

Do we get to see pictures from the "Sound Quality" line?

My MS275 and MS2150 (which are both old enough to drive themselves now and one of which is old enough to vote!) are easily the best SQ amps I have ever used (hundreds of setups over the years) - but I wouldnt qualify it as the "powerful" line and when I bought it back in 91/92 for 1200.00 it was most definitely not a "budget" line.

So, while I havent been on this forum for a long time like a lot of these guys, I have been an Old PG Faithful for a long time.

Welcome to the forum. Sorry I was being a little too vague.

Powerful, headroom a plenty line would all be good words to describe the new upper end line. I would argue an MS amp definitely falls into a similar category.

In reality, an MS amp sounds about the same as any other amp at low and medium volumes. Its when you turn it up and experience its ability to deliver headroom (dynamic power) that makes it stand out.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:06 am

Update time!

Upper end amplifier cosmetics. Next week you get a closer look at the inside.

New component midrange...

dwnrodeo · Post by **dwnrodeo** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:37 am

I love the brushed aluminum and Tri-Led's!

Is the midrange above supposed to replace the Ryval component or is this the high end midrange? I noticed the grill resembles the Ryval grill and the surround is foam which I hope is not used on the higher end component line.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:15 am

Entry line component, but a bump up from ryval.

dwnrodeo · Post by **dwnrodeo** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:19 am

MW3 wrote:Entry line component, but a step up from where the ryval was.

Thats what I figured. I haven't had much listening time on the Ryvals, only what I heard after installing some coaxial's in my sisters car and they sound good on little amounts of power.

Post by **Eric D** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:49 am

I'm confused...

Is that endplate on the amp set up so you have to put your mounting screws in on an angle?

Post by **Rold Gold** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:04 am

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MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:19 am

Mounting screws are at a minor angle, its overemphasized in that rendering.

audiophyle_247 · Post by **audiophyle_247** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:17 am

Now THAT is what I am talking about!!!!

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:52 am

phase plugs in lowend stuff????

Silly question: will you actually publish T/S and enclosure recommendations?

Post by **mhyde71** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:33 am

likey likey X2 x 100,000,000

and it is the o/s logo that sets/tops it off for me! thank you!

denim · Post by **denim** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:24 pm

Looking good!

Irongoats · Post by **Irongoats** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:44 pm

Me wants... that brushed look is the death.

audiophyle_247 · Post by **audiophyle_247** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:58 pm

Out of curiosity, what program was that amp concept drawn up in?

deathcloud · Post by **deathcloud** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:59 pm

I think morgan said they use MS Paint.

Post by **VW337** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:12 pm

audiophyle_247 wrote:Out of curiosity, what program was that amp concept drawn up in?

it is going to be "solid works" or "Autodesk inventor"

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:08 pm

MS Paint and Notepad.

Solidworks and ProE.

Phil is the only man on the planet that uses inventor.

joyride · Post by **joyride** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:22 pm

Yup, Def has the constraints/anti aliasing properties of Solidworks. There are no obvious signs of Rhino/3D studio. Im a bit surprised by ProE though. That could be mocked up (design wise) completely in Solidworks. Im thinking the ProE came in later for the tooling side of things. Any idea what PG used to use compared to now? ProE isnt cheap...

Morgan, Im assuming they actually render these (even in photo works). Any chance we could get some of those rather than just the surfacing?

audiophyle_247 · Post by **audiophyle_247** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:29 pm

Havent played with solidworks myself, I was interested because I use a lot of Rhino & 3DsMax for modeling & photorealistic rendering but that looked like neither.

The side venting looks a lot like the newer Alienware laptop front ends.
Would be bad-ass with some lighting seeping out from behind.