My new sub is amazing

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:28 pm

I made one box a while ago. And I just made the other box like last week. So I have two boxes. Also, I thought it would be easier making two. Exact same boxes though. I was thinking of attaching them together. With something on the back or having a trim panel going around the subs.

Thanks for the responses so far.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:51 pm

Much easier to just make one box.

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:04 pm

yeah I have many other boxes too. Have one which is one single box that holds two subs. That one is wrapped in carpet. I had one of these boxes that was wrapped in leather. But it didn't really match the car so I took it off.

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:21 pm

I know you said only 3-500 watts rms, but what amp? This is the 1st time Ive ever heard subs, on a video asound good!!!!!!!! Even on you tube you just cant tell - Man those seemded incredibily CLEAR thru the video!!!!! u get dvc4 or dvc2?

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:29 pm

I got the dvc2ohm subs. I have some more power on these now though. I have the jbl gto1201.1. But everything is turned down on the head unit and amp. I only have a 100A fuse on it. It needs a 120A fuse so I keep the volume low.

So did you see these on you tube or you just saying that other subs people recorded didn't sound good?

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:35 pm

I only have speakers in the rear too. Only sony xplod 6x9's. Thats all I am using for the highs. I was thinking of putting speakers up front though. But the stock location is 4x6's.

Post by **bdubs767** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:37 pm

Juice0723 wrote:I only have speakers in the rear too. Only sony xplod 6x9's. Thats all I am using for the highs. I was thinking of putting speakers up front though. But the stock location is 4x6's.

sq install only I see....go get a saws all and cut your doors to fit some RSD 6.5cs

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:49 pm

So I should go all sq with rsd components? And switch the rear 6x9's to rsd 6x9's as well? This is going to be a pretty loud sq install I think. Would the 6.5" be way better then the 5.25" ones?

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:56 pm

no i meant when u listen to any you tube vid, regardless of type of subs, power etc, u cant really tell if they are clear , precise, you can just see excursion, mayb your vid is just that much higher quality, along with really nice new subs!!!!

Post by **bdubs767** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:27 pm

Juice0723 wrote:So I should go all sq with rsd components? And switch the rear 6x9's to rsd 6x9's as well? This is going to be a pretty loud sq install I think. Would the 6.5" be way better then the 5.25" ones?

Dump the rears too

unless you wanna get the JBL MS-8 when it comes out. That a topic for another day tho.

I say since it seems your into beign loud not SQ, I personally would go get a matching JBL 4 channel and get some RSd 6x9 for the rears and RSd 4x6 for the fronts. IF you feel like cutting and deading go for the 6.5 comps.

Tee 6.5 will put out far more midbass than a 5.25" and then you can put a proper cross from your mids to sub. As you said the cross is about half way on the dial, and your xover points are up to 300hz, so thats prob around 150hz, which is far to high. I would drop the cross down to 80hz for SPL, and you could even get away with 40hz w/ the rsd 6.5cs if your looking for more SQ.

ydnap · Post by **ydnap** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:32 pm

thedeal7235 wrote:no i meant when u listen to any you tube vid, regardless of type of subs, power etc, u cant really tell if they are clear , precise, you can just see excursion, mayb your vid is just that much higher quality, along with really nice new subs!!!!

That's not strictly true. If the recording equipment is good and you play it back on some good speakers you can tell a good setup from a minging one.

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:21 pm

I was thinking of getting a matching Jbl amp. But I have a phoenix gold m44 that I probably use for the highs. I was using that amp for the subs. Until I got my jbl amp.

Would it be a big difference having the 6.5" or 5.25" then the 4x6's?
I think the 4x6's would be the easiest to install. But if it would be quite a bit better going with the 5.25" or 6.5" rsd's I would do that. I want it to sound good and be loud with the speakers. Off the m44.

I don't have the m44 hooked up right now with my 6x9's either. Because I don't know where I could fit it in the trunk. Have any ideas? It couldn't fit beside my jbl amp. Or I would of did it that way.

Post by **bdubs767** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:35 pm

Juice0723 wrote:I was thinking of getting a matching Jbl amp. But I have a phoenix gold m44 that I probably use for the highs. I was using that amp for the subs. Until I got my jbl amp.

Would it be a big difference having the 6.5" or 5.25" then the 4x6's?
I think the 4x6's would be the easiest to install. But if it would be quite a bit better going with the 5.25" or 6.5" rsd's I would do that. I want it to sound good and be loud with the speakers. Off the m44.

I don't have the m44 hooked up right now with my 6x9's either. Because I don't know where I could fit it in the trunk. Have any ideas? It couldn't fit beside my jbl amp. Or I would of did it that way.

Well the 6.5" will have a lot more cone area than the 5.25s or 4x6...more cone area means more air being moved means louder with all things held equal.

m44 would work if you can mount it.

well whats your definition of good sound? Coherent sound stage and imaging? Or just clearly defined dynamics?

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:59 pm

yeah I never had the problem of mounting a amp down but my jbl amp is vibrating like crazy from these subs. So today I just put a screw on the amp to help it abit.

Well by sounding good. I like when its very clear. And could actually hear what they are saying. Like my speakers now on some songs sound like they distort when turned up and you can't really hear what's being said.

I can't really find the rms rating on those speakers. Only says 5W/160W for the 6x9 and 5W/80W for the 4x6.

Post by **bdubs767** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:03 pm

Juice0723 wrote:yeah I never had the problem of mounting a amp down but my jbl amp is vibrating like crazy from these subs. So today I just put a screw on the amp to help it abit.

Well by sounding good. I like when its very clear. And could actually hear what they are saying. Like my speakers now on some songs sound like they distort when turned up and you can't really hear what's being said.

I can't really find the rms rating on those speakers. Only says 5W/160W for the 6x9 and 5W/80W for the 4x6.

rms rating on most speakers are worthless....Ive never had a speaker that didnt like more unclipped power.

Your speaker are distorting because you are turning it up so loud you are clipping your signal.

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:08 pm

yeah I only have those powered off my head unit right now. I think I might put my m44 somewhere to power them again. I had them powered by the m44 before and it sounded good. More adjustability on the amp. My HU doesn't have a crossover built in. So my 6x9's right now are picking up the bass also.

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Heres some new pics.

dedlyjedly · Post by **dedlyjedly** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:16 pm

You need to get those amps mounted somewhere. or at least put the M44 on top of that other pig!

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:55 pm

you think I should move them? I have them mounted down with a couple of screws right now. I made a little amp rack for the jbl, so its tilted a bit so the m44 is a little under it. They couldn't fit side by side.

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:32 pm

This look better?

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:31 pm

hey, do a video of them vented, how r they??????

Cant wait to hear-Christian

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:36 pm

That port area looks tiny. How large is that port? Having any port noise? Maybe if you did, you couldnt hear it, since its a trunk car. Ide say you are depriving those babies of port area. I would go atleast 4inch aeros, if they arent that size already..

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:58 pm

0.81 cu ft 2.5 cu ft
Vd/VI 1.5 in / 6.9 in 3 in / 11.8 in
SSF 20Hz 20Hz
SPL 0.368 cu ft 0.79 cu ft
Vd/VI 1.5 in / 5.2 in 3 in / 9.3 in
SSF 20Hz 20Hz
SSF - This is a suggested subsonic

Juice0723 · Post by **Juice0723** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:45 pm

I don't hear any port noise. The ports are 3" diameter with the edge rounded off. The video I put up had these in vented boxes. I don't really like the sound of this box. I think because of the higher tunning. I don't have the lows that I like anymore. And the subs seem to bottom out easier. Probably of the slight increase in cuft of the box. I might put more mdf in the box & maybe a longer port. But this might be to much work and I might just switch them back to the boxes I had them in before.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:27 pm

Yes, you need a new box design. Use 4inch aero ports this time, and tune low, or one big slot port.

My new sub is amazing

port specs on the rsdc's