>> SSA Dcon prototypes

Post by **Wakeup** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:33 pm

Nice Denim! I might be interested in a 12 in the future! Glad we picked you up on the Phorum. I need to visit ssa a bit more often! Will try to do so! anyway again keep us all updated!

denim · Post by **denim** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:05 am

The 12" Dcon prototype just came in. Here are a handful of pictures. Testing on the 12" will start right away.

Icon Prototype 12" on the left, next to the Dcon Prototype 12".

Dcon 12 on the left, Icon prototype 12 on the right.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:20 am

BEASTY....................

denim · Post by **denim** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:29 am

FuzzyHoNutz wrote:BEASTY....................

Thanks, all three of our lines are that way.

denim · Post by **denim** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:21 am

The dcon is ready to go!! >> SSA dcon page!

We will have them available on the shop very soon!!

DCON12D4
2" wide, 4 layer, copper coils
Push terminals
Pulp Fiber Cone
Dual NOMEX spiders
FEA optimized motor
2" Anodized alum. former
Heavy Duty Lead wires
Hand crafted in USA
Fs 28.1hz
Re 7.8
Qms 4.46
Qes .35
Qts .33
Mms 121g
Xmax 16mm
Vas 85.6
Sd 480 cm^2
BL 21.7
SPL 89.1 1W/1m
Wattage: 300wRMS
Displacement: 0.14ft^3

Enclosure Recommendations:
Sealed: .90 cu.ft.
Sealed: 1.20 cu.ft. optimal
Ported: 1.75 cu.ft. @ 28-33 hz
Ported: 2.25 cu.ft. @ 28-33hz opt.
Sub Outside Dia.: 12.500”
Cut Inside Dia.: 11.150”
Mounting depth: 6.500”
Displacement: 0.14 ft^3

DCON10D4
2" wide, 4 layer, copper coils
Push terminals
Pulp Fiber Cone
Dual NOMEX spiders
FEA optimized motor
2" Anodized alum. former
Heavy Duty Lead wires
Hand crafted in USA
Fs 29.4hz
Re 7.8
Qms 4.09
Qes .33
Qts .31
mms 105g
Xmax 16mm
Vas 37.8
Sd 309 cm^2
BL 21.7
SPL 86.6 1W/1m
Wattage: 300wRMS
Displacement: 0.10ft^3

Enclosure Recommendations:
Sealed: .75 cu.ft.
Sealed: .90 cu.ft. optimal
Ported: 1.00 cu.ft. @ 28-33 hz
Ported: 1.25 cu.ft. @ 28-33hz opt.
Sub Outside Dia.: 11.000”
Cut Inside Dia.: 9.250”
Mounting depth: 6.000”
Displacement: 0.10ft^3

Post by **stipud** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:43 am

Meanest fuckin' 300w subs I've ever seen

Wish I could graph it up against an RSD comp... too bad there's no Mac/Linux box software.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:09 am

stipud wrote:Meanest fuckin' 300w subs I've ever seen

Wish I could graph it up against an RSD comp... too bad there's no Mac/Linux box software.

You mean like this?

http://gspeakers.sourceforge.net/

denim · Post by **denim** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:57 am

Oh I forgot to mention, I spoke with the build house and at the moment we are not able to do a dual 2ohm version, but we could do a SVC 4ohm if someone really wanted one. But for now the dcon's will appear to only come in dual 4.

Post by **stipud** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:25 am

SVC 4 ohm would work for me. All I needed is a 4 ohm final load

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:33 am

I dont remember seeing a price point on this sub ... is there a set price on it yet????? svc and dvc if available please i dont know if i want to go with one or two subs.......... you think a 2250ta would power 2 of them??

Post by **AVICJR** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:14 pm

GX3 wrote: i dont know if i want to go with one or two subs.......... you think a 2250ta would power 2 of them??

At 300 watts RMS per sub the 2250TA will run 5 of them.

denim · Post by **denim** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:04 am

They are going to be in the mid- 100's. Should be ready for release any day now.

Post by **stipud** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:24 am

denim wrote:They are going to be in the mid- 100's. Should be ready for release any day now.

Damn that is cheap considering how beefy they look... I guess the Icon is only 250-300 right?

Once it comes out, put me on the short list for an SVC 4 ohm (12 or 10, doesn't matter). Maybe I'll ship it to Portland and let Brian, Errin, Steve or Harold have some fun with it as well, so we can get some reviews going

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:15 pm

stipud wrote:
denim wrote:They are going to be in the mid- 100's. Should be ready for release any day now.
Damn that is cheap considering how beefy they look... I guess the Icon is only 250-300 right?

Once it comes out, put me on the short list for an SVC 4 ohm (12 or 10, doesn't matter). Maybe I'll ship it to Portland and let Brian, Errin, Steve or Harold have some fun with it as well, so we can get some reviews going

me as well 12" 4ohm ................going to use my 2250 in stereo 250watts each???? or go 2ohm mono? ........ up for suggestions

Post by **stipud** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:43 pm

GX3 wrote:me as well 12" 4ohm ................going to use my 2250 in stereo 250watts each???? or go 2ohm mono? ........ up for suggestions

If you are going to be running a pair, use the standard D4's and run them at 4 ohms bridged.

denim · Post by **denim** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:26 am

They are ready to go! Just got the first official mini-build run in. The 8's are still a little bit away yet.

As for the SVC4's, the build house is checking into them now, but a Dcon demo ring would be fun. There is an extremely talented box builder in Canada, Trevor of Pound That Sound, that is working on something nutty for them.

He is also doing an insane 4 10" Icon box at the moment also.

As for the pricing, we are a very very small fishy in a very full lake. If we ever want to make our product stand out, before the potential customer gets to hear it, we need to keep the price down. Something that is very difficult on an American designed and build driver (something discussed by I believe Brian, on this very challenge in another topic about PG amps being built over seas so they can stay profitable in todays market). We have sold a handful of drivers based just upon appearance, which is quite funny since the market has changed to cheap plastic and chrome bits.

Thanks guys for the positive words on our 2nd driver. We are not trying to take over the world here, just have an American built, excellent sounding, hearty driver. As I think I am too stubborn to cater to the masses or go overseas, we will probably stay a low production line aimed more for the boutique/audiophile market.

Post by **stipud** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:45 am

denim wrote:As for the SVC4's, the build house is checking into them now, but a Dcon demo ring would be fun. There is an extremely talented box builder in Canada, Trevor of Pound That Sound, that is working on something nutty for them.

He is also doing an insane 4 10" Icon box at the moment also.

As for the pricing, we are a very very small fishy in a very full lake. If we ever want to make our product stand out, before the potential customer gets to hear it, we need to keep the price down. Something that is very difficult on an American designed and build driver (something discussed by I believe Brian, on this very challenge in another topic about PG amps being built over seas so they can stay profitable in todays market). We have sold a handful of drivers based just upon appearance, which is quite funny since the market has changed to cheap plastic and chrome bits.

I've seen his boxes! Absolute masterpieces if I do say so myself! Pity the guy lives in the middle of nowhere! Though I can't say I blame him... I would probably kill 15 ninjas if I could even have a chance of making a living in the Okanagan valley. Vernon, Kelowna, Sicamous and the Schuswaps... such a lovely laid back lifestyle eating orchard fruit, snowboarding, swimming in lakes and chilling. Ahhh.... that would be the life. Absolutely no computer geek work out there though... boo

Let me know what we can work out for a demo ring. I am happy to buy a pair of drivers to ship around (one would have to be SVC 4 ohm, as I would keep it -- the other I can sell when we're done). Who here would be interested in giving these things a spin? All I would ask is that you pay the shipping, and pass it on in a somewhat timely fashion (i.e. don't steal it

). I suppose I can buy a DVC one now so we can get the ball rolling, and then worry about the SVC later.

denim wrote:Thanks guys for the positive words on our 2nd driver. We are not trying to take over the world here, just have an American built, excellent sounding, hearty driver. As I think I am too stubborn to cater to the masses or go overseas, we will probably stay a low production line aimed more for the boutique/audiophile market.

My hero...

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:21 am

Im only a 3hr drive from the Oakanaggn, time to put on the ski mask and "buy" some tens hehheh

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:02 pm

dont know if i missed reading it (sorry) but how would i go about getting a 12 web or direct from here ????

Post by **stipud** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:09 pm

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/zenc ... cts_id=121

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:12 pm

stipud wrote:http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/zenc ... cts_id=121

Thank You

denim · Post by **denim** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:53 am

As our build house is kinda running at 1/2 speed with CES going on. I probably won't be able to get an answer back on the SVC4 until next week at the earliest. I would be flattered if you guys wanted to do a demo ring. Weight wise, they are not heavy, so shipping would not be that bad if a logical path was laid out between testers. Also, because they would be drivers in a promotional manner, stipud (or who ever wants to) would get them at pretty much cost.

Another challenge of being a tiny fish is being at the bottom of the totem pole in terms of the build house priority. So things move slow for us. For example, the 8" version was started and prototyped 6 months ago, but we are having an upgraded basket made. We want to make sure it is one of the best 8's on the market, period. And we also have a halo (1500ish watt, 31mm Xmax) model that was started even before the Dcon line. But due to the totally new custom motor, and the amount of steel, we are still waiting on the motors.

I have been tossing around an idea of a driver in between the 300watt Dcon and the 1000watt Icon. Thinking something kind of off the wall, maybe under hung motor, or a double shorting ring. But that is highly dependent on the stability of the Icon and how well the Dcon does. I don't want to over extend ourselves with 4 or 5 driver models, as I know Mark wants to take another stab at the ultra high output segment. Would love to do a stout split coil design for that.

Post by **stipud** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:39 am

I suppose for demo purposes a 12 would be the most common. I will try to make sure the sub takes the shortest route possible between stops, so we can keep shipping fast and cheap. Let's say you can keep the sub for at most a week, maybe two if you're going to write a really nice review.

We will also have to figure out what to do about a sub box. Do we all test in the same enclosure, and ship it around, or do we use our own?

For now let's keep it to the 900+ post crew, from North America only (sorry no islanders either Brenz/Itchner) So who's on board to test this mofo?

This means for now the following people can apply:
Bfowler, Wakeup, mr tibbs, bdubs767, fuzzysnuggleduck, VW337, FuzzyHoNutz, Francious70, AVICJR, twisted, mhyde71, HoseHead, fordtough1, Mackenzie, smgreen20, gkitching, thedeal7235

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:22 am

i dont mind a 10 or 12, so if someone else has a preference, im up for it.

i will test it in the couple different boxes i have. maybe even build one for it.

and my 600.1 can do 2 or 4 ohms so i dont mind on that either....actually, i will have a rsd600.1 here soon...

Post by **Rold Gold** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:01 pm

I'm in fo sho..........Ready for a change from the Xmax 15 I run now. Just to hear something different that is.......