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Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 7:09 am**

Im thinking about buying 2 Eclipse amps for the Honda Fit to run an active 3 way + sub for comps and as my daily driver.

These are the smallest class A/B amps that I can find

Anyone have any thoughts on this amp?

http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Ecl ... nside1.jpg

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:10 am**

I have yet to hear an Eclipse amp. I have heard both good things and bad things, but that was about all of the amps, not this one in particular. I hope that helps!

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:14 am**

There is one of these available to me locally.....not this specific model....but from the EA lineup, I was looking at it the other day

I like the look of them....and I have read some great reviews on them....I have a review of this amp sitting on my dresser

They use the " ICE " technology......and I like how all the termination points are hidden....you don't see any screws

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 5:50 pm**

I have one.. I believe its a 5400 or something, sitting out in my garage. I used it a bit, but didnt really take any time to listen to it. definately nothing special to them, but they're fairly well built..

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 5:54 pm**

What about a Memphis Audio amp? They made a 4 channel which was the smallest I have ever seen and it performed pretty well. Maybe the reliability is not so good, but I don't really know much about that.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 6:05 pm**

JL's new HD's are the smallest I've seen.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 6:08 pm**

smgreen20 wrote:JL's new HD's are the smallest I've seen.

He wants Class A/B though, but you are right that is the most power per sq in for full range out there.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 6:21 pm**

thanks for replies.

The newer XA series are full range class d (which is a turn off to me), but the prices on the older a/b class EA series are about half on ebay.

Is it just me or eclipse used one sided boards? A bit prehistoric for amps these days. Maybe that's why they are so cheap priced

Im also considering the XS6600, but I'll have to buy an additional amp to run 3way + sub

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 6:23 pm**

THe JLs are a bit out of my price range, besides, I'm not big on JL.

I'll take a look at the Memphis offerings

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 7:50 pm**

I think arc audio has some mini amps out. They are pricey, goes without saying. A 125.4 and a 500.1. Both 11.6 x 5.15 x1.7

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:17 pm**

The Arc minis are class D IIRC. Whatever it is its not AB

Those amps would fit the install perfectly, but they are a bit expensive though.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:25 pm**

Alpine??

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:28 pm**

mr tibbs wrote:Alpine??

Full class D

I've lost a lot of respect for Alpine lately

not b/c of these amps, just them in general.

its been really hard lately finding an AB compact amp these days.

I would LOVE to have the room for 2 xenon X200.4s

Maybe one day

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:30 pm**

I've been looking at Helix lately, but they appear to be out of my price range

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:33 pm**

vin78 wrote:I've been looking at Helix lately, but they appear to be out of my price range

Great amp, but pricey as hell. How about an experiment?? I remember Nico posting up some tiny amp that he was testing out in his HT. Looking at it there was no way it could preform like advertised, but he seemed to like it.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 8:36 pm**

CC sold this amp .... and I had a PT joj there at the time ......... the store i was in never sold one. Don't know if it was the board or what but it had a hard time making power ... it replaced a smaller powered MTX thunder amp( the one with the multi led colors on it) and the EA could not keep up ....same input V and B voltage ...... tried turning the gain up and it would clip ..... Input V was around 1-2 volts IIRC You will need a line driver for this amp if i remember right it wants a high V in around 6-7 as for SQ it was on a crappy CCity sound board so I didn't pay much attention to that ..... All the manager wanted to play was POP and rap any time i put and thing like Jazz on he told me to turn that crap off........ I hated it there but i need the 2nd job at the time

dont know if that helped at all

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:03 pm**

So do all of the EA series of amps use ICE chipsets? Or have there been some different generations. Cause if it is using ICE it surely isn't class A/B.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:09 pm**

dedlyjedly wrote:So do all of the EA series of amps use ICE chipsets? Or have there been some different generations. Cause if it is using ICE it surely isn't class A/B.

Good question. I was worried about that too. But every seller on ebay says that its AB.

http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZM ... &_osacat=0

Note how cheap priced they are

I searched on eclipse's website, but it appears their product manuals are pruned once new replacement products are available.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:11 pm**

Hold on....let me grab the article and see what it says....it's from right when they came out

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:16 pm**

DAMN! they are class D

http://www.eclipse-web.com/us/download/ ... ta-low.pdf

Stupid ebayers, cant trust any of them

I might have to shoehorn a pair of Ms in the car

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:17 pm**

the size of the ea4000 you listed is definitely more in the A/B ballpark. i see an ea4100 and an xa4000 in the lit you posted, am I missing it? I think your ea4000 was from the model year previous to that info.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:17 pm**

Doesn't say

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:18 pm**

dBincognito wrote:Doesn't say

Its in the summary of the amp section in the PDF, near the bottom

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:26 pm**

In my article it says the EA series employs the " ICE " technology....it just didn't say which specific models....well....I guess I ruined that idea

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:27 pm**

you might drop morgan a line at exile too. they have a new line of amps that is replacing their xi series.

same foot print and similar cosmetics to their shift amps.

from thier email blast:

Exile Audio's engineering team utilized the same technologies developed for the high-end home and professional market in order to make these the best performing amplifiers in Exile's line up. "We wanted to bring a product to the market that has a classic look and filled with unique features and the bullet proof reliability that Exile Audio® has come to be known for" says Brian Kelsey, Sales Director of Exile Audio®.

The Xi amplifiers offer exciting new features like the ISDTM Integrated Status Display circuit that continuously monitors the signal, power output and protection conditions then shows you what is happening inside the amplifier. Each amplifier has a built in backlit display on top of the amplifier that indicates SIGNAL, CLIP and PROTECT conditions. Xi amplifiers also feature an “ICE” cooling design that boasts 15grams/mm of aluminum cooling coupled with unique die cast venting that guarantees the amplifier stays cool even under the most abusive conditions.

Xi Series Models:

XI2500.1: 2500W rms - 1 ohm Stable Monoblock

XI1500.1: 1500W rms - 1 ohm Stable Monoblock

Xi800.4: 800W rms - 2/4 channel amplifier

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