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Anyone ever used one of these?? (FAN200)

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:14 am
by phoenix_rising
Hi guys - nice quick one...

ANYONE had any experience with this particular Phoenix Gold branded FAN200? I'm interested in how much airflow it moves or whether anyone's ever used one?... i know of the stinger and xscoprion brands but wanted to get hold of another 2 for my install...

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:19 am
by kg1961
I have one nib I have not used. I bought it because Matt said he used them on his install (this was gong to be for my frank) then I soold it :(
I don't know how much air they move I could try mine tonight and see how much it move I would think allot..
I might selll mine?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:20 am
by phoenix_rising
Sweet. Fire it up tonight if you get a chance and let me know how much it moves! :) I'd def be interested ...Thanks dude!

If anyones got a 2nd one lying about... let me know... id like to use 2 to keep it even...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:37 am
by ttocs
they are commonly called squirrel-cage fans and you wll be suprised how much air they move. The advantage of them is that they are not very tall and they blow a longer field of air. you need to keep the ends of it open a little bit as the air flows inside and then out along the blades. If you cover those areas it would be the same as putting a board on the back of your regular 4 inch. Nothing would happen.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:38 am
by stipud
Not sure if that's the same model I used, but in my experience the squirrel cage fans move a lot of air, but are noisier than the standard bearing 12v fans.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:42 am
by mhyde71
i use one on my 2250, and like it.... but like it was mentioned, it is loud. stero down i can hear (hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm), but not so so bad as it is in the enclosure along with the amp, and most of time kept closed...

I think if i were to do it again though... I would grab two short ones versus one long one as it would cover more surface area across all fins, and not just the center fins. i would be inclined to think/feel that the outer fins are the most important to keep a breeze over, as that is where devices are positioned. versus just down the center and lacking the outer 2/3 fins on either side.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:05 am
by phoenix_rising
Cheers guys for the feedback... anyone got one knocking about for sale?

Sorry if this is a REALLY STUPID question..... but how do you calculate multiple fan noise?? say i were to use 4 fans that were all 46db? what would the total amount of noise be if all 4 were running flat out?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:10 am
by bogart
there are ways to quite them down when you incorperate them into the rack...basiclly just baffel the out. I am trying to figure out how to descibe this....basically a staggered airflow port staged on each end so there is plenty of airflow but the reverberations the fan creates are deadened by the baffels...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:11 am
by bogart
Your rta will tell you what the fans are doing too Olly....may have to play with the sensitivity a bit but you'll get a feel for the amplitude with it

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:12 am
by bogart
If I am not mistaken....I used to own that green 2250 and sold it to tristan years back!!!! nice amp if it is the one

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:49 am
by mhyde71
think so, iirc i did get it from tristan...
it's in malaysia now.
w/ weng

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:05 pm
by phoenix_rising
Cheers Chris...i'll talk to you more in depth about the fan porting through PM ... anyone know how i can caculate the total noise from the fans? original question...if i have 4 fans running say 36db all at full tilt how much noise are they going to make combined?

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:41 pm
by kg1961
sorry mine is a xscorpion crossflow fan tfb the fan blades are 6.5 " long the unit is about 7.5 inch long 12vdc
I would ship it for 27us
it does move allot of air!!!!!! let me know if you want it
my paypal is mikelycka@hotmail.com
I can send it out tomorrow

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:43 pm
by phoenix_rising
Has anyone got a PG FAN200? new or used?

Just found this vid of a comparable stinger fan...Noisy little bast**ds arnt they!!! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD_SZo5GPU

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:42 am
by phoenix_rising
Anyone got any of these PG200 Fans?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:56 am
by joerg
Mandrops germany has e few of them left. But they are quite expensive!

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:59 am
by phoenix_rising
Yea they've got 1 - and there chrarging retail doubled! Its worth 10-15usd as its a rebranded cross flow fan.... and i might have haggled them down by they've only got 1 in stock.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:36 am
by joerg

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:35 am
by phoenix_rising
Cheers Joerg there not the PG ones im after but i sent him an email anyway... got back a big fat "NO" in capitals... :) So the hunt conitues im pretty sure there must be 2 x PG FAN200's out there somewhere...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:08 am
by wash with gasoline
phoenix_rising wrote:Cheers Chris...i'll talk to you more in depth about the fan porting through PM ... anyone know how i can caculate the total noise from the fans? original question...if i have 4 fans running say 36db all at full tilt how much noise are they going to make combined?
how i understand noise is that when you double it it goes up 3 db, could be wrong this is how i think it would be... 2x 36db fans would be 39db, 4x 36db fans would be 42db. ...but like i said thats how i understand it, and im no expert :lol:

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:52 pm
by phoenix_rising
yea thats what i thought

Re: Anyone ever used one of these?? (FAN200)

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:52 am
by phoenix_rising
Bump for an old thread but im still looking if anyones got any sitting about the garage? trying to get together an order of bits from other members so if someones got one they wont need to send out of the US... Anyone?

Re: Anyone ever used one of these?? (FAN200)

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:01 am
by dvnt88
phoenix_rising wrote:Bump for an old thread but im still looking if anyones got any sitting about the garage? trying to get together an order of bits from other members so if someones got one they wont need to send out of the US... Anyone?
I'm using 2 of the 5" fans in my install and they move quite a bit of air, per the specs it states the 8" moves 92cbft or air per min. and the 5" moves 40cuft per min.

Here's some links on the bay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xscorpion-TF8-8 ... 43aa6f5a7c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XSCORPION-TF5-5 ... 43aa5d779b

Re: Anyone ever used one of these?? (FAN200)

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:35 pm
by wooferdog
if 1 fan is 36db 4 should be about 45db total.

Re: Anyone ever used one of these?? (FAN200)

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:29 pm
by phoenix_rising
Hi guys, Last shameless bump for this... Does anyone have a phoenix gold FAN200 crossflow fan lying around in their stash?