Will this work

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:43 am

I've got these old school speakers, will it work will i need anything else, so heres the list:

Celestion Subwoofer -
Rockford Fosgate- Puch 40i (DSM) Amplifier
Component Speaker (Rockford Fosgate PWR - 54 Punch)
Kicker Shelf Speakers

Will i need another Amp ? Ive got Rockford Fosgate Wiring, Just one the look for a decent Head Unit, anyone got one up to £50 let me know.

Comments and Advice please, Look at pictures too.

marko · Post by **marko** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:46 am

one of your mids looks very poorly

idealy you would need a 2nd amp unless you were going fully passive.. whatr about tweeters to go with punch mids?

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:48 am

what do you mean fully passive?

marko · Post by **marko** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:51 am

Habz wrote:what do you mean fully passiv?

well you have a 2 channel amp that can run front end and sub simultaneously but in order to do this you need a coil on the sub and caps for mids.

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:53 am

got the coil for the sub, so do you think two amps will be better because i do have another amp. i dont intend on puttin tweeters.

Do you think the celestion sub is still good ?

marko · Post by **marko** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:55 am

yeah the sub is still a highly regarded piece of kit.

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:56 am

isnt there a website for celestion anymore ? or isit out lol?

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:56 am

isnt there a website for celestion anymore ? or isit out lol?

gridracer · Post by **gridracer** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:08 pm

So if you're not running tweeters what are you gonna do for highs?

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:02 pm

My thought exactly! No high frequency speakers? I mean, sure.. I love my bass.. but hey.. bring on vocals and ither sounds...

I can't locate a website for you, but specs for your Celestion sub (providing it's an AD12) are:

Vas [Liters] 140,8
Qts 0,13
Qes 0,13
Qms 6,9
Fs [Hz] 29
Sensitivity [dB] 95
Max Power [W] 300
xmax [mm] 3,2258

From these specs, all you need is the Fs, Vas, and Qts and you can use a program like WinISD to design your subwoofer enclosure to provide you with the optimum sound from your sub.

Ideally, if you can get your hands on a monoblock for you sub, then that amp will run your mids, no sweat. Ditch the 6x9s if you're going to be running a sub in your car. Me personally, I'm not a fan of running 6x9s AND a sub in the same area (unless you intend on using your 6x9s in the front and your mids in the back for rear fill... then you could get away with)

Pillow · Post by **Pillow** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:56 pm

Did someone say Punch 40 DSM fully passive?

Wow, how timely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIpwPEfV7ns

Post by **ttocs** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:31 pm

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:58 pm

Yeah, tough little amps, these. andy600r is selling an old RF amp around the same time as this one...

there you go habs.... something to think about... another RF amp to match this one

Misfire · Post by **Misfire** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:07 pm

Is the surround on one of your 54's ruined? It looks strange in the photo.

itchnertamatoa · Post by **itchnertamatoa** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:10 pm

it does look a bit ruined, or pressed in in a few spots
I'd go with a second amp and some tweets up front otherwise it will sound a bit muddy

andy600rr · Post by **andy600rr** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:35 pm

Tiger wrote:Yeah, tough little amps, these. andy600r is selling an old RF amp around the same time as this one...

there you go habs.... something to think about... another RF amp to match this one

Ohh.... I've got an ebay stalker

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:00 am

HAHAHAHAHA!

Dunno what you're talking about, dude!!!

hehehe
I discovered the amp amongst my ebay travels.. as you do ... :p

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:31 am

YEAH I MIGHT GET ANOTHER RF AMP, AND IVE GOT PIONEER TWEETS, SO MIGHT, AS TIGER SAID DASH THE 6X9S HAVE THE DOOR SPEARKERS, TWWETS AND SUB WITH THE TWO AMPS!

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:33 am

Tiger wrote:My thought exactly! No high frequency speakers? I mean, sure.. I love my bass.. but hey.. bring on vocals and ither sounds...

I can't locate a website for you, but specs for your Celestion sub (providing it's an AD12) are:

Vas [Liters] 140,8
Qts 0,13
Qes 0,13
Qms 6,9
Fs [Hz] 29
Sensitivity [dB] 95
Max Power [W] 300
xmax [mm] 3,2258

From these specs, all you need is the Fs, Vas, and Qts and you can use a program like WinISD to design your subwoofer enclosure to provide you with the optimum sound from your sub.

Ideally, if you can get your hands on a monoblock for you sub, then that amp will run your mids, no sweat. Ditch the 6x9s if you're going to be running a sub in your car. Me personally, I'm not a fan of running 6x9s AND a sub in the same area (unless you intend on using your 6x9s in the front and your mids in the back for rear fill... then you could get away with)

aLRIGHT THEN MATE TWEETERS ARE ON MY LIST IL TAKE SOME PICS LATER ON TONIGHT.

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:35 am

Misfire wrote:Is the surround on one of your 54's ruined? It looks strange in the photo.

No mate they have been sitting in the cold for the last 12 years

but i have tested them still sound nice! the spec on these are awsome i think 120WRMS

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:50 am

Nice

Love your work, dude!

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:09 am

Does anyone know if the door speakers will fit a 2001 Vauxhall Corsa?

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:13 am

the amp is not the same one as mine in the youtube video mine is an 40I but still them amps were the shiz nit back in the days, and still are better than whats out today

Pillow · Post by **Pillow** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:53 am

Correct, I think the "I" incorporates the integrated crossover card.

Habz · Post by **Habz** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:45 am

Pillow wrote:Correct, I think the "I" incorporates the integrated crossover card.

Guess what people ive Found a 60i too omg my dads kept his kit well lol, il get pics up later, and i'l tell you about the other Amps i have also!