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looking at PG RSDC102 10" CAR SUB what Air Space for bo

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:54 pm
by Pug}{maN
cant seem to find the Air Space for box, Sealed or Vented ? for 1 PG RSDC102 10" CAR SUB....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT

and what one would be best ? Sealed or Vented ?

only get'n 1, this is the amp i was look'n at...

http://www.ngamotorsports.com/mb_quart_ ... _watts_rms

any help would be grate ! :hurr:

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:24 pm
by mistawikid
this is what I was told.....

the 10's have about the same box specs. anything .5-.7 will make them bang.

the real problem is the bolt holes and mounting size are different
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I asked a while back 8) heres the thread...

http://phoenixphorum.com/rsdc-10-s-vt12 ... highlight=

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:26 pm
by Pug}{maN
mistawikid wrote:this is what I was told.....

the 10's have about the same box specs. anything .5-.7 will make them bang.

the real problem is the bolt holes and mounting size are different


http://phoenixphorum.com/rsdc-10-s-vt12 ... highlight=
is that .5 or .7 on a Sealed ? whats the mounting size ?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:17 am
by mistawikid
its sealed! I dont know the mounting size.

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:41 am
by Bfowler
http://download.phoenixphorum.com/Manua ... manual.pdf

the mounting size is 8.94 inches or a hair over 8 15/16's
or 227mm

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:31 pm
by Pug}{maN
are you the one that has one of these? seeing what you thought of it...im also looking at a kicker cvr 10...

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:41 pm
by Bfowler
i have 4 of them :) (not in 1 car)

they fucking rock. the are pretty equal to a cvr from 50 and and up. but they are painfully awesome down to the mid 20's . (this is all in a sealed .6 box)

i can't imagine needing another sub. they are efficient AND can handle power if needed. (i have paired them with various amps ranging from 150 - 800 watts. )

i have pitted them against true SQ subs like idq's and SSA dcons. street beater subs like type-rv2's, w3's, and cvr's

i am convinced i will never need to buy another sub

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:22 pm
by Pug}{maN
heres the amp i was going to get to push one of them 10's, think the sub would take it ,

http://www.ngamotorsports.com/mb_quart_ ... _watts_rms


down to 1 ohm in a sealed ....

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:05 pm
by oldskoolmseriesfan
class A/B aswell nice choice 8)

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:12 pm
by Pug}{maN
one other thing, think ill at lest hear it out of the car ? i know its just 1 10....

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:14 pm
by NewOldStock
ok... is it a typo that the RSDC10 for SQ needs a .2 sq/ft box for SPL?
Sealed Enclosure Volume (single subwoofer)
......RSdC102/104..................................RSdC122/124
SQ 0.382 cu ft.......................................1.17 cu ft
SPL 0.2 cu ft...........................................0.72 cu ft
Vented Enclosure Volume (single subwoofer)
......RSdC102/104.................................RSdC122/124
SQ 0.81 cu ft.........................................2.5 cu ft
Vd/VI 1.5 in / 6.9 in...............................3 in / 11.8 in

SPL 0.368 cu ft......................................0.79 cu ft
Vd/VI 1.5 in / 5.2 in...............................3 in / 9.3 in

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:22 pm
by Pug}{maN
i just found this...


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.382 read alot on them, seems to be what people are running on them...if you get a .5 box the sub will take up some room, and be close i think..

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:20 pm
by Bfowler
it will easily take the 500watts. i like them a bit bigger, i would squeeze .5-.6 if you can. .3 is ok, but the low end extension benefits from a little more airspace.

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:39 pm
by NewOldStock
I will be running mine in .71 - as close to what Bfowler recommends as I can get...

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:16 pm
by ttocs
.2 cu ft!? I was curious enough to have to check, that is just under 1.5 gallons. That is an itty bitty box, I would have to hear it to believe it as it would almost seem it would be better to run it IB.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:15 am
by NewOldStock
I agree... .2 is incredibly small for a 10. heck, its real small even for an 8... I run my CDT 8's in .4 each and I think they could use a little more air.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:44 pm
by Pug}{maN
a 11 x 11 x 10.5 box with the 0.09 driver volume will get you to 0.38 cf , so thats what im going to make ... o and thats with 3/4 mdf...


or if i went 11x11x10.75 it would give you 0.393, 0.011 for glue and Silicone sealant....




and if you where doing a rsdc 12" if the box was 15.25x15.5x13.25 , that would give you 1.179 with the 0.13 Driver Volume with 3/4 mdf...

for any one looking at the 12 rather than the 10... :mrgreen:



o and thats all SQ sealed

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:06 pm
by Pug}{maN
Here is a link to the full Manual (which includes the T/S parameters, physical dimensions, and recommended enclosures.

Its a whopper 23MB (for only 8 pages?).

http://download.phoenixphorum.com/Manua ... manual.pdf