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basscubes and amp frequency boost??

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:12 am
by 12voltjunky
...if adding a basscube to an existing system, is there a
RULE for adjusting the "bass" on the amp?

I am currently running a 12" sub in a ported box off a
Ti 600.2. Can I use the gain for bass on the amp in conjunction
with the basscube or would using both cancel, or even cause damage,
to the sub?

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:29 am
by Thunderdome
just read the manual and if you still have questions, ask away, first follow linky secret stuff is the real deal though :lol:
http://download.phoenixphorum.com/Manua ... Basscubes/

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:11 am
by Stryker
you can use both....I do :)depends how much you want. I like bass heavy, thats just me.

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:57 am
by 12voltjunky
Thunderdome wrote:just read the manual and if you still have questions, ask away, first follow linky secret stuff is the real deal though :lol:
http://download.phoenixphorum.com/Manua ... Basscubes/
Thanks, Thunderdome. I found both links very helpful but did not see anything specific regarding the freq boost from an amp. I likely overlooked it before asking for help.

This phorum kicks ass.

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:59 am
by 12voltjunky
Stryker wrote:you can use both....I do :)depends how much you want. I like bass heavy, thats just me.
Ok, going to try both asap. Thanks, Stryker.

:twisted:

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:11 am
by ttocs
it can help or it or add up to a huge distortion button if you use it in conjuction with a loudness switch, bass turned all the way and gains maxed out.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:44 pm
by 12voltjunky
ttocs wrote:it can help or it or add up to a huge distortion button if you use it in conjuction with a loudness switch, bass turned all the way and gains maxed out.
makes enough sense to me. Thanks!
I read that boosting various frequencies simultaneously
is a no-no and the Ti600 freq boost is, I believe, at 45Hz
while the freq boost of the basscube, ofcourse, is adjustable.

This gives me enough confidence to get started and the rest will come.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:18 pm
by stipud
Right, the amp has fixed boost at 45Hz with wide Q (range of frequencies affected), while the basscube has a variable frequency and variable Q. So essentially the basscube is a 1-band parametric equalizer.

If you overlap the bass boosts you will quickly destroy your amp. Bass boost is the devil, especially if not controlled with modesty and maturity. It adds distortion to your signal, and forces some notes into clipping.

Every 3dB of boost is asking the amplifier to produce TWICE the power at each frequency. Now imagine what happens if you crank both up to 12 :lol: :naughty: :lol: :naughty:. Your amp will be playing square waves pretty much...

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:34 pm
by 12voltjunky
^^^thanks a lot - for Everyone's input!
:roll: why do they call you stipud :?:
you don't seem thaat stipud to me :roll:

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:36 am
by waynehead
stipud wrote:Bass boost is the devil, .
Yeah :twisted: