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				what happened??!!
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:28 pm
				by schroedes
				OK guys,  fried one of my Rsdc 12s 2 weeks ago, with a hifonics Brutus, so I ordered 2 new hifonics Atlas subs, just got em in and turned it on without even giving them much juice, and pop!! One of them literally domed right out like a bubble, LOL, wtf happened?? Defective voice coil?? Have warranty on em, thanks
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:29 pm
				by NewOldStock
				same side that blew the RSDC?  how are they wired?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:38 pm
				by schroedes
				Paralled for 1 ohm, instantly popped right out! LOL, I'm a electrician so I know electrical, manufacture defect?? Buddy that helped me used to compete etc, said he'd never seen that
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:40 pm
				by davewaibel
				just because you competed, doesn't mean you know what your doing-
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:43 pm
				by schroedes
				He knows what he's doing, wired right, just wondering if you guys have seen this happen on brand new sub, other one is fine, running 1/0 for power with 12 awg going to subs so good wiring, bad voicecoil??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:47 pm
				by schroedes
				There's scratching and friction when I push it in and out
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:07 pm
				by schroedes
				??????? Something??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:07 pm
				by Rold Gold
				Yer having all sorts of bad luck with woofers so I have to think that they are being wired wrong in the first place.  They aren't going to warranty a woofer that's been "abused" or installed incorrectly.....  Can you take pictures of how things are wired so we can help ya alittle better......
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:18 pm
				by Thunderdome
				possibly fried output, check output current at speaker connection?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:20 pm
				by schroedes
				Rsdc worked fine for 6 months though
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:23 pm
				by Thunderdome
				I,d suspect the amp
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:40 pm
				by schroedes
				Brand new amp though, had quite a bit of boost and gain before though, still wouldn't explain why the sub just popped out though! LOL, especially when other one is fine and they are paralleled
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:57 pm
				by schroedes
				Would the amp going into protect mode right away when the rsdc fried mean its shot??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:03 pm
				by schroedes
				And how do I check the output with a bad sub? Risk the other one??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:09 pm
				by oldskoolmseriesfan
				schroedes wrote:Brand new amp though, had quite a bit of boost and gain before though, still wouldn't explain why the sub just popped out though! LOL, especially when other one is fine and they are paralleled
Problem solved, you over drove it dude 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:11 pm
				by schroedes
				Ya bit that doesn't explain new sub, no boost and barely any gain when I powered it up, took 5 seconds and pop! Bulged right out,  bad coil??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:32 pm
				by schroedes
				Guess I'm lost
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:18 pm
				by Rold Gold
				Which brutus amp do you have????  The site seems to say ALL of the mono's are brutus' but different models......
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:56 pm
				by waynehead
				Cant you fry mosfets in an amp if you have a blown speaker running on it too long?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:56 pm
				by finbar
				D.C. offset @ speaker terminals?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:29 pm
				by schroedes
				Thing didn't run more than a minute with the fried sub, and it shut down anyways, ran parallel anyways and the other sub is fine ya know
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:30 pm
				by schroedes
				Its the bxi 1600,
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:38 pm
				by schroedes
				Gotta be flawed sub
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:42 pm
				by Eric D
				From what I gather it sounds like the outputs to the amp are shorted.
Subs don't move out or in on their own without a signal from the amp telling it to do so.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:44 pm
				by schroedes
				That still wouldn't explain other new Atlas being fine though