2250 TA - tech specs & help
2250 TA - tech specs & help
Has anyone measured the real world outputs of the 2250 TA into stereo 4 ohms?
Also I wish to swap the small caps of course (I'll ignore the large ones this time as they're always perfect). Can someone recommend some really tasty caps please? I seem to recall Wima have a great reputation. Something black would blend in well. Links to specific models available online will be highly appreciated...
Thanks
Also I wish to swap the small caps of course (I'll ignore the large ones this time as they're always perfect). Can someone recommend some really tasty caps please? I seem to recall Wima have a great reputation. Something black would blend in well. Links to specific models available online will be highly appreciated...
Thanks
think they measure about 230wrms per channel.
i would leave the caps alone in a TA, they should be ok..
i would leave the caps alone in a TA, they should be ok..
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Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
If your MS2250TA has shorter input caps, I highly doubt they need to be changed. The shorter ones are significantly newer, and should use better technology in their construction.
The only real reason I can see for changing them is so they look better (taller ones seem to look better IMO). Increasing the uF of them has no real world benefit. The only reason I use 5,600uF caps when I swap these is because the 5,600uF caps are the same height as the old 2,200uF ones being replaced.
My MS2250TA had enough NO LOAD voltage to do 225W a channel into 4 ohms. Real world output will be less. If you run the amp beyond 225W it will be clipping. For these reasons, the MS2250TA is begging to be run at 2 ohms mono or 1 ohm stereo. Under these conditions you will get a lot of power out of it, with a huge increase in heat though. I have never tested it, but I am confident a MS2250TA at 2 ohm mono will beat a MS2250 (original) at 4 ohm mono.
The only real reason I can see for changing them is so they look better (taller ones seem to look better IMO). Increasing the uF of them has no real world benefit. The only reason I use 5,600uF caps when I swap these is because the 5,600uF caps are the same height as the old 2,200uF ones being replaced.
My MS2250TA had enough NO LOAD voltage to do 225W a channel into 4 ohms. Real world output will be less. If you run the amp beyond 225W it will be clipping. For these reasons, the MS2250TA is begging to be run at 2 ohms mono or 1 ohm stereo. Under these conditions you will get a lot of power out of it, with a huge increase in heat though. I have never tested it, but I am confident a MS2250TA at 2 ohm mono will beat a MS2250 (original) at 4 ohm mono.
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i would love to see that show down!! ms2250 v ms2250ta
Ti1 headunit (unique)
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
Interesting, thanks a lot. Nico - any idea if these are the tall or shorter caps?
Anything north of around 200 rms will be surplus in my system anyway I guess. But Amp Guts has different figures...
Phoenix Gold MS-2250
2 x 250W @ 4 ohms (12.5V - <0.05% THD)
2 x 340W @ 4 ohms (13.8V)
2 x 517W @ 2 ohms (13.8V)
1 x 1060W @ 4 ohms bridged (13.8V)
Manufactured in 1992-1995
Credits: Dr. Fosgate from www.SoundBuggy.com forum
http://ampguts.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1346
Anything north of around 200 rms will be surplus in my system anyway I guess. But Amp Guts has different figures...
Phoenix Gold MS-2250
2 x 250W @ 4 ohms (12.5V - <0.05% THD)
2 x 340W @ 4 ohms (13.8V)
2 x 517W @ 2 ohms (13.8V)
1 x 1060W @ 4 ohms bridged (13.8V)
Manufactured in 1992-1995
Credits: Dr. Fosgate from www.SoundBuggy.com forum
http://ampguts.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1346
thats not for the ta that is the original one.KUB3 wrote:Interesting, thanks a lot. Nico - any idea if these are the tall or shorter caps?
Anything north of around 200 rms will be surplus in my system anyway I guess. But Amp Guts has different figures...
Phoenix Gold MS-2250
2 x 250W @ 4 ohms (12.5V - <0.05% THD)
2 x 340W @ 4 ohms (13.8V)
2 x 517W @ 2 ohms (13.8V)
1 x 1060W @ 4 ohms bridged (13.8V)
Manufactured in 1992-1995
Credits: Dr. Fosgate from www.SoundBuggy.com forum
http://ampguts.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1346
2 different beasts..
Ti1 headunit (unique)
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
check this out http://www.soundbuggy.com/Eric/Car%20Au ... index.html
By reducing it they made it more reliable. MS2250s are not the most reliable (considering average users, not people who think things through).
If you only need 200W, then the MS2250TA is perfect for you as it will do it all day long without breaking a sweat, and will sound the best running so optimally.
If you only need 200W, then the MS2250TA is perfect for you as it will do it all day long without breaking a sweat, and will sound the best running so optimally.
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sorry for the thread hyjackEric D wrote:If your MS2250TA has shorter input caps, I highly doubt they need to be changed. The shorter ones are significantly newer, and should use better technology in their construction.
The only real reason I can see for changing them is so they look better (taller ones seem to look better IMO). Increasing the uF of them has no real world benefit. The only reason I use 5,600uF caps when I swap these is because the 5,600uF caps are the same height as the old 2,200uF ones being replaced.
my old none ta has leaking caps what brand/ type do you use ?i would prefer to keep the tall look as it does sit better
also would you bother with the big blue caps? these dont look like there leaking but suppose might as well do them all?
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Your amp needs caps bad. You risk it catching fire if you power it on.
I would not do the blue caps. They seldom leak.
Here is some info on the caps to use...
http://phoenixphorum.com/digikey-caps-s ... 14379.html
I would not do the blue caps. They seldom leak.
Here is some info on the caps to use...
http://phoenixphorum.com/digikey-caps-s ... 14379.html
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Replace them then, before they blow up.KUB3 wrote:With regard to my caps in the 2250 TA Nico said they are the regular size tall ones.
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I don't use Panasonic, I use Nichicon. But, I don't know what one is superior. I only use Nichicon as they are what most of the amps came with originally.
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that'll be a 1stKUB3 wrote:I don't mind spending a little more as this is a keeper
digikey seams useless for us in the UK, they want a fortune for shipping i just get them off ebay.com, cheap enough
Ti1 headunit (unique)
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!