Were winning the fight --Catalano vs Florida Noise Ordinance

caraudiotech · Post by **caraudiotech** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:13 am

Were winning the fight against the unfair Florida noise ordinance. I urge you to comment intelligently on the article via this forum or the following link.

Catalano vs Florida Noise Ordinance
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafe ... er/1109672--

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:26 am

I went to the url listed above but it says the page has been moved or is no longer available......so I didn't get to read anything or comment. The noise ordinance is not a problem here where I live in FL. But if I go right up the road to Melbourne it is......never understood it either, we have bike's all over FL that are far louder than a stereo in most situations. Especially Bike Week and Biketoberfest.....no comparison between those events and Spring Break Nationals. The biker's make the most noise hands down.

caraudiotech · Post by **caraudiotech** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:30 am

Try to just copy paste this:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafe ... er/1109672

Post by **stipud** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:34 am

Wow, he got busted in a G35 with a stock stereo no less! "Plainly audible" my ass...

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:35 am

so one thing that scares me that the article touched on, was (sic)"its like a officer pulling over speeders without a radar gun. the law is based on a officers perception)

however...in a few states now, an officer CAN issue you a speeding ticket on perception alone, which throws that guys whole defense out in a court.

caraudiotech · Post by **caraudiotech** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:36 am

It was aftermarket, but not any more powerful than the stock setup, just better drivers and amp. It's just funny how they stopped someone that isn't a pushover and now they got a fight on their hands.

jbob0124 · Post by **jbob0124** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:41 am

Don't mind that guy robbing that house and raping that woman, or the child molester who is sitting on the playground at the elementary school, lets go after the guy with loud music, he's the trouble maker.

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:42 am

stipud wrote:Wow, he got busted in a G35 with a stock stereo no less! "Plainly audible" my ass...

it wasnt stock...but far from ghetto blasting knock your pictures off the wall system too

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:45 am

jbob0124 wrote:Don't mind that guy robbing that house and raping that woman, or the child molester who is sitting on the playground at the elementary school, lets go after the guy with loud music, he's the trouble maker.

do you read fark news at all? they have running joke about police doing menail task where every news story starts "having solved all other crime in the city, cop....blahblahblah" its hilarious

jbob0124 · Post by **jbob0124** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:26 pm

Can't say that I have, I will take a look at it though.

NewOldStock · Post by **NewOldStock** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:02 pm

the best part of the whole story is the comments below

"It could be argued that anybody listening in public to Justin Timberlake - no matter the volume - deserves the fine."

^^ I dunno... I like me some Justin now and then.

there are other ways for you folks with emotional problems to get attention than to abuse others quiet time by rattling the windows with your noise pollution.

^^ Your right, I am going to park my straight-piped Yamaha Warrior (1700cc) outside your house and fire it up once an hour all night for a week... that will help me solve my emotional problems.

Herein lies the problem. The offender created the whole controversey himself by installing a stereo system that was never intended for an automobile, much less to be cranked up with the windows down! ...

^^ this one makes me scratch my head... I guess this person assumes that he took a giant home-audio speaker and put it in his trunk?

Catalano is a chump.

This is a great law, I just wish they'd enforce it more

^^ guess he has never turned on his radio in his car and stood 25ft away from it. OEM stereo's are easily powerful enough to break this law.

my personal favorite of the group:

Perhaps the greatest and wisest of our founders, THOMAS JEFFERSON put it this way:

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

^^ AMEN!

caraudiotech · Post by **caraudiotech** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:06 pm

I tried to prove my point with the responses under the username BeachPhotoz but sometimes ignorance prevails and that is why I put the link on here, where intelligence is more abundant.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:11 pm

Everything that bothers someone else must be banned then we'll all be happy

oldschoolfan · Post by **oldschoolfan** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:14 pm

It is funny reading the posts from people for the ordinance. Not all, but a great majority of them complain about the type of music being played. Calling it crap and such. I understand volume courtesy at appropriate times and places but when people complain about "what" you are listening to, this is where their argument falls to the ground.

My neighbor just received a ticket for violating our local noise ordinance. Our ordinance has a specified decibel level and time parameters. This is also ridiculous as the officer does not have any measuring equipment to see if the individual is actually in violation of the ordinance. Again, perception of specific limits.

Mess.

AAMP217 · Post by **AAMP217** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:17 pm

Nice job John, this law has needed to be re-examined for years and real guidelines need to be set for what is too loud, not what a particular person thins is loud at "25 feet"

Post by **smgreen20** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:41 pm

I'd love to join in on it, but this is THE ONE subject that will piss me off to no end. 11 yrs ago I got a ticket for my stereo being to loud, I was listening to Disturbed's version of "shout", cop pulls me over and says, "I'm going to write you a $75 ticker for your radio being to loud, can I have your DL and insurance card". In that exact way and mean about it. I live around 4 cops in my neighborhood, and the one who's kids play w/mine told me (I asked him back in '99 @ what was to loud) and he said they only do something about it if someone calls and complains about it. There was no way someone could've called about me, I drove by the cop w/the stereo up and he pulled me over because it was to loud to HIM. Oh, and he said "I like that kind of music and that sounds like shit". I was

that he said that.

Just typing this I'm getting all riled up. I fought it for a bit here, but I had to go from one jurisdiction head to another.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:07 pm

IMO-
It's another way for cops to gain "probable cause" to search you/your car.... But over the years, I've found that most cops are kool about loud music. I've been stopped many times for it but never had a ticket written.

I burped a 50 cycle tone at full tilt over 4-Ti12's in the center of downtown Portland at 12am on a saturday night while sitting at a stop light.....

I didn't see the cop riding up behind me on a mountain bike....

Rode up and put his hand on my door and told me to leave the area or I'd get a "cruising" ticket but didn't say anything about the music.....

FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:44 pm

LOL the cop didnt know what the 50hz sound was or he would have..

u still have those 12s?

ShockTherapy · Post by **ShockTherapy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:55 am

I have never personally been ticketed for noise but once a cop pulled up next to me, rolled down his windows and motioned with his hand to turn it down. after I did he smiled and waved. It's times like that that make you realize that there are still cool people like you and I in law enforcement. I understand that for every cool cop there are 3-4 ballbusters... I guess I just got lucky. In my opinion noise ordinances are valid... It's when they become like f'n hitler that it pisses me off! If the county where you live in wants to provide each officer with test equipment to measure sound pressure levels then they will have validity in ticketing people... Deciding what's loud in their opinion is BULLSHIT.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:14 am

If I'm not mistaken, there is at least one member here who is a cop...

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:40 am

oh god....i'll pack my crap...i'm probably going away for a while

Post by **Rold Gold** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:54 am

Sorry Brenz-
I only have 2 Ti12's left and they were SVC's not Elites....

Funny thing was it was the disc that says "50 cycles.......BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!"

caraudiotech · Post by **caraudiotech** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:32 am

Bay News 9 Story:
http://www.baynews9.com/article/news/20 ... -might-win

Video:
http://www.baynews9.com/video?clip=http ... e_0720.flv

The Oracle Story:
http://www.usforacle.com/car-audio-rest ... -1.2281785

Were winning the fight --Catalano vs Florida Noise Ordinance

Were winning the fight --Catalano vs Florida Noise Ordinance

Link

Wasn't stock but not a boomer

I responded as BeachPhotoz

WTF

The news is spreading......