MS-8 install next weekend

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:17 pm

Well this thing has been shelf art for a while now....time to install....

After reading all the good stuff about it I can wait to hear what it does...

Any one here have one installed yet?

Post by **ttocs** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:24 pm

I got the alpine imprint up and running and was amazed the difference it made on the system, I am sure this will be just as much fun!

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:14 am

Installed....now just some playing around to get the sound I want...

The first sound calabration I did the subs came back over powering, I had the vol up to high during calabration...leveled the amps off(that helped a shit load)

2nd try my sound stage was off to the right....easy fix, sit to the left just a tad more

3rd try I lost alot of vol

not sure where it went...My amps were turned almost all the way down....So I gave them just a tad more...now every thing seems level

we will see how it goes......

can tell a huge dif though in sound and the stage..I LOVE IT

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:54 pm

UPDATE>>>>>>>>>> MS8 IS BROKEN

The display jack is solderd/glued to the board..very cheap fix...need to get a new unit now....wont get that till late in the week...vacation is then so might have to wait till after....eq215ix will be going back in till then I guess

Post by **ttocs** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:20 pm

sorry to hear that. What happened?

Ahsmo · Post by **Ahsmo** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:30 pm

I was wondering how one of these things would work...what is your system setup?

Post by **ttocs** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:50 pm

it plays a signal through each speaker individually, and then listens to how it sounds in the car, as well as how long it takes to get to the mic. The mic is moved to a couple of different locations and then it automatically sets the time alignment and optimum eq settings.

I just did the same thing with my alpine imprint. The jbl has some more settings then the imprint but they both make a big difference.

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:54 pm

jsut talked to the guy I bought it from ....hes an authed dealer so no worrys....

display jack is very touchy is all.... bad solder pad to the pcb board....they went back and glued these and they still dont hold...prolly another board rev soon..

if you have after market head unit just hook up the front right and left inputs then hook your outputs to your amp....

in setup you tell the ms8 what jack# goes to what speakers

I just setup for driver....not all seats..

Post by **stipud** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:31 am

Their response to a bad solder pad is to glue it eh?

Post by **joerg** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:33 am

Can somebody please tell me what a MS-8 is

Post by **stipud** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:54 am

joerg wrote:Can somebody please tell me what a MS-8 is

It's the new JBL integration unit, which has auto-EQ and auto-TA.

Post by **ttocs** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:03 am

EVERYONE just HAS to have one! Every few years there is a new eq that comes out that is supposed to make perfect sound. Seems like they each have a short time where they are popular until the flaws are discovered. The DEQ had its time in the spotlight as well and then fell the to side.

Isn't it similar to the alpine imprint piece, you put a mic in the car and it plays a sign sweep from each speaker? From there it can set the perfect time alignment as well as auto adjust the EQ for optimum performance. I know I was suprised by the imprint process on my alpine, definitly raised the soundstage as well as just made it cleaner/clearer.

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:26 pm

I will have a new one in 2 days.....Had to give them 799.00 when they get my unit back they will refund the 799.00.....

Im so un-stressed now....

Post by **ttocs** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:46 pm

its been my experience that there always seems to be some bugs like this that needed to be worked out on almost all of the eq's that come out to save the world. Its like the new 5.0 for the mustang. It looks like a great motor but I would not buy it until it was in production for a couple of years and figured out all the stuff the engineers never dreamed of.

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:50 pm

ttocs wrote:its been my experience that there always seems to be some bugs like this that needed to be worked out on almost all of the eq's that come out to save the world. Its like the new 5.0 for the mustang. It looks like a great motor but I would not buy it until it was in production for a couple of years and figured out all the stuff the engineers never dreamed of.

its been out a couple years...thought I was safe....

you mis " " me

Thumper88 · Post by **Thumper88** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:02 pm

tonym wrote:
ttocs wrote:its been my experience that there always seems to be some bugs like this that needed to be worked out on almost all of the eq's that come out to save the world. Its like the new 5.0 for the mustang. It looks like a great motor but I would not buy it until it was in production for a couple of years and figured out all the stuff the engineers never dreamed of.
its been out a couple months...thought I was safe....

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/06/15/jb ... d-so-good/

corrected.

well, more than a couple months, but yea...

Post by **ttocs** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:54 pm

I thought it just came out this year and that is why it was still so hot. We are just now starting to hear how poeple really feel about them. It seems the first few always give a glowing review and then months later will semi-change their stories once everything is updated. It was the same with the imprint that I used. It helped but it is not going to align the planets and make everything perfect like the rock band wyld stallions was supposed to on bill and teds........

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:57 pm

nah been out about 22 months or so....

here is the first 1 I think

then the newer 1

Thumper88 · Post by **Thumper88** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:28 pm

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/03/18/th ... and-price/

It has been a long time coming, but the notorious JBL MS-8 is almost here. Car audio forums have been talking up this digital signal processor system since 2007 when it debuted in a BMW demo car. It reached vaporware status in the minds of many, but JBL finally went live with its April release date and price today.

The first image you posted is just a prototype image in its development stages.

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:19 pm

new ms-8 is here

take 2

marko · Post by **marko** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:36 pm

i don't reckon much to it, not flexible enough or high end, i know people who have had major problems with them and also who have gone back to older processors too..

it's very good if you want OEM intergration and don't want the hassle of setting up for months but as a pure high end product it just don't cut it (all in my opinion of course).

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:14 am

marko wrote:i don't reckon much to it, not flexible enough or high end, i know people who have had major problems with them and also who have gone back to older processors too..

it's very good if you want OEM intergration and don't want the hassle of setting up for months but as a pure high end product it just don't cut it (all in my opinion of course).

its the most flexable out right now....

marko · Post by **marko** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:20 am

tonym wrote:
marko wrote:i don't reckon much to it, not flexible enough or high end, i know people who have had major problems with them and also who have gone back to older processors too..

it's very good if you want OEM intergration and don't want the hassle of setting up for months but as a pure high end product it just don't cut it (all in my opinion of course).
its the most flexable out right now....

F1 and ODR piss all over it for flexibility..

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:52 am

how long do they take to set up?

marko · Post by **marko** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:28 am

tonym wrote:how long do they take to set up?

it's not a race, building/tuning can take years to get right..

all i'm saying the ms8 is not the be all and end all to processors, yes it's good at what it does and the market it's aimed at.

wonder what the next "flavour of the month" will be?