Phoenix Gold Phorum

After further review on my outlaw and bandit buy....

Outlaw has wire jumped from(m50 side to m100 side) 1 rca to the other....

green light on m100 side comes on and goes off after 10 secs...now it dont even come on at all....red light comes on and goes off like its supposed to but no green light.....m50 side works besides the wire jumped from rca ro rca...

bandit seems fine.....fires up and everything

outlaw has a dent in it where it goes in the create right at the top supports you put in it...

this was shipped sometime in the create also...still has the ups sticker on the create....

and the create number dont match the amp...

create number is 0907

outlas is supposed to have an rca jumper inside to run the m50 from the m100 x-over..

Ive looked on ampguts at the outlaw on there and there isnt any wire crossing...

some had some didn't!

Don't always trust what you see on Ampguts. The photos there are of my Outlaw (I took those photos), and I removed the RCA jumper. It was a pain to work on the separate boards with the wire jumper in there.

I think at least half of the PG amp photos on Ampguts were taken by me and are of amps I have owned or worked on for others.

I am not certain, but I am pretty confident all Outlaws had this RCA jumper in them from the factory.

one of mine did (i also thought it was a later mod as someone cut it out and left some still attatched!), and the other has no sign at all and look fresh inside with no signs of been messed with

so this is needed? or if you dont plan on using the x-over?

don't really need it unless you want to run the m100 cross over onthe m50, and even then all you need is an rca cable on the outside!

this amp is off to portland to get the m100 side fixed and all caps replaced....
should I have him leave the jumper in or take it out?

tonym wrote:this amp is off to portland to get the m100 side fixed and all caps replaced....
should I have him leave the jumper in or take it out?

i would leave it for originality sake..

marko wrote:

tonym wrote:this amp is off to portland to get the m100 side fixed and all caps replaced....
should I have him leave the jumper in or take it out?

i would leave it for originality sake..

cool....thanks for the input.....

off to portland? what do you mean? is PG fixing amps out in P-town now/still?

mhyde71 wrote:off to portland? what do you mean? is PG fixing amps out in P-town now/still?

valeks1 does....

I put it in a 40x22x8 box....

outlaw is on its way out to valeks in portland....

Outlaw m100 side is fixed...all new caps tomorrow and cant wait to get it back...

thanks alek...

Outlaw is on the way back....was worse than thought....

all new caps and updates were done also

Alek said:
M50 left channel was bad, M100 power supply was killed after B+ and B- hooked up backward and then repaired not by PG, because they did not replaced all components need to be replaced after amp hooked up backward. You don’t have to worry I fixed everything and now amplifier works like new.

Hell of a guy... hard to find good repair shops or good techs.... I have a Engineer near Cali that does my repairs. I can tell you this once I had ZED fix an amp and the thing worked but looked like shit on his soldier skills. I set it back to my guy in Cali and he fixed them up and it's looks original again.

Outlaw Is back home and ready for many years of pounding.. ....

thanks Alek