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cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:30 am
by szary czlowiek
Hi
Im have cyclone speaker. I read cyclone_info.pdf:
"Ferquency Response....20Hzto 60 Hz"
all clear - but i can't find graph of the frequency response.
Please help me
Nice day
Bob
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:24 am
by ttocs
what are you wanting to know other then it is only good on extremly low notes? Does solving for the area under the graph or the tangent line of a certain point tell us something more?
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:48 am
by szary czlowiek
I do not understand the question. Frequency characteristics are essential information for the speakers. They are starting to design filters and others.
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:15 pm
by szary czlowiek
Nobody has this information ?
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:43 am
by gridracer
I am not sure how a graph will help at all but here is the manual for the cyclone
http://download.phoenixphorum.com/Manua ... e_info.pdf
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:17 pm
by szary czlowiek
Gridracer - Thank you for trying. I have read this document. It is the only document with any information. Looking for something more.....
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:18 pm
by ttocs
I have never used the graph to make a cross over, normally just use the manf specs for them or do what sounds good. I thought they needed a high slope x-over around 50 hz?
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:58 pm
by holmis
If you need to do box calculations the data is:
Qts: 1.92
Fs: 31.5
Vas: 11.3
Qms: 2.75
Qes: 6.38
Thats all you need to do box calc on the driver...
Any graph wont help you before you enter the values in a box cacutation program... or do the math yourself...
That is the data Car Stereo Review measured the cyclone in their tests.
Thats because PG never released any parameters on this unit other than recomended box size...
They aslo require a minimum of 18dB/oct crossoverslope below 50Hz
Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:40 am
by paintguy
I'm not sure how a response curve would help much either.
Surely the enclosure/box and it's interaction with the vehicle will change the response so much as to make any "test-bench" figures virtually meaningless?
Build the box, put it in the car, and measure it yourself

Re: cyclone frequency response - graph
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:14 am
by Bfowler
i tried to graph it based on those specs, but i dont think base box can model a non standard type sub since it doesnt really have "excursion"