Letting Go of the Old School..
Letting Go of the Old School..
So I have decided to let go of my M series amplifiers and use new current amplifiers.
Dont get me wrong I LOVE my M series and Old school gear but these suckers are current hungry and rather large in size and I really want to try something new school.
So with that being said, I want to run new phoenix gold to keep it in the family, I am going to be running DLS Ultimate 6.5/Tweeters (active) Arc Audio 8" Midbass (active)
Pair of Cyclones.
I was planning on running the M100 for the Cyclones, M44 briged for the 8's M50 for the 6.5's and the M25 for the tweeters keeping it all at 4ohm stereo/briged.
I really havent read up on the new PG amplifiers so what would you guy recommend I replace these M series with?
My processing is DQS/Matrix Hu is a Alpine CDA-7998.
Thanks in advance! I will be posting my M series here soon, All of them work flawlessly (caps will need to be done if planning on running them).
Dont get me wrong I LOVE my M series and Old school gear but these suckers are current hungry and rather large in size and I really want to try something new school.
So with that being said, I want to run new phoenix gold to keep it in the family, I am going to be running DLS Ultimate 6.5/Tweeters (active) Arc Audio 8" Midbass (active)
Pair of Cyclones.
I was planning on running the M100 for the Cyclones, M44 briged for the 8's M50 for the 6.5's and the M25 for the tweeters keeping it all at 4ohm stereo/briged.
I really havent read up on the new PG amplifiers so what would you guy recommend I replace these M series with?
My processing is DQS/Matrix Hu is a Alpine CDA-7998.
Thanks in advance! I will be posting my M series here soon, All of them work flawlessly (caps will need to be done if planning on running them).
Re: Letting Go of the Old School..
I think upgrading from the M series amps is a really great idea.
And I think the best new/current amps you can replace them with are the MS series from PG...
And I think the best new/current amps you can replace them with are the MS series from PG...
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Re: Letting Go of the Old School..
they sure do look nice, I am still waiting to see if they get imported over here I would love to try some out
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why do I feel the same in southern indiana?
what else can I say I am a grumpy asshole most of the time.
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For me anyway.ttocs wrote:why do I feel the same in NORTHERN indiana?
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I did the opposite... Sold the new school gear in favor of the old school
I would keep the M series stuff, just in case.
IMO the MS and M amps are impossible to beat even today.

I would keep the M series stuff, just in case.
IMO the MS and M amps are impossible to beat even today.
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Re: Letting Go of the Old School..
i totally agree with this statement 100% ^^^^^^ and i actually was going to recommend holding on to those M Series too until your sure you like the sound of what ever amp you may chose as you may regret selling them if the other amp's don't sound as good in your setup.Pillow wrote:I did the opposite... Sold the new school gear in favor of the old school![]()
I would keep the M series stuff, just in case.
IMO the MS and M amps are impossible to beat even today.

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Re: Letting Go of the Old School..
I have had each of these M Series (back in the day) in an install atleast once or twice in my time, I do like the sound and the clarity, But thats not the issue I am having.
its mostly a size issue I really want to keep the Eclipse as stock as possible kinda like a stealth install but with those Cyclones probably not so much
Anyone know off hand if this link is the right caps to replace the leaking ones with? http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea ... 93-1541-ND
its mostly a size issue I really want to keep the Eclipse as stock as possible kinda like a stealth install but with those Cyclones probably not so much

Anyone know off hand if this link is the right caps to replace the leaking ones with? http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea ... 93-1541-ND
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i think that 18mm diameter maybe too big around, here's a panasonic with the same rating but with 16mm diameter http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea ... e=P5536-ND
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^ bump just need one other saying that those are the right cap before I pull the trigger on getting them!
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you may be able to fit taller cap's in the amp's but i dont know the tallest that can go in the M series you may need to measure from the base of the board to the top of the amp cover to see. when i measure to see what will fit i use an inches to metric guide like this http://mdmetric.com/tech/cvtcht.htm 

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I still love the old style and sound of the m amps
I'm just getting way to old to keep working/seriving old electonics
pot caps extra extra
I have sold/traded all my pg amps and going to use a 6 channel audison for easy set up small package and almost new.
also the size of a m100 vs other amp now adays
Just my 2 cents
I'm just getting way to old to keep working/seriving old electonics
pot caps extra extra
I have sold/traded all my pg amps and going to use a 6 channel audison for easy set up small package and almost new.
also the size of a m100 vs other amp now adays
Just my 2 cents
most of my gear is gone :liar:
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