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good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:24 pm
by NewOldStock
finally have the camaro about 90% done - still need to finish up the trim pieces, hide some wires in the trunk and tune it... its close, sounds good at low volumes but at high volumes it just becomes noise, I need to play with the phase... though the frequency response is nearly dead flat, with just a small dip around 500hz.

I have come to hate tuning...

at any rate, here is the setup:
Head: Pioneer P3200BT DVD player
Wires: KnuKonceptz wire (power, speaker, RCA)
Fronts: Precision Power 356cs
Subs: (2) RSDC102 in .71 net cubic feet each (need to make that slightly smaller, but for now - holy sh*t)
Amp: Roadster66 #11 (bridged to the fronts, 2-ohm load to the subs.

gains are set at about 1/3 on both fronts and sub channels... and none of the speakers have had any real amount of break-in time.

I have the mids crossed over at 80hz and have been really impressed with the midbass out of these things... but mostly, I am just stunned by the sheer output of the RSDC subs (crossed over at 63hz). I literally scared myself with the Alicia Keys song "No One". The roadster puts out a rated 600w to the sub channel, running two RSDC at 4-ohms each for a 2-ohm load I am getting about 300w (rated) per sub, about 150w per VC... and at half volume, it was shockingly loud. I have to imagine that if I actually turned the gains up to just before clipping, I might not be here tonight to write this post... what the hell do you guys that run 1kw+ to multiples of these things think your doing... thats just insanity. I thought the Fosgate P3 in a ported enclosure in my pickup was loud, but good lord these are insane, I cant imagine how loud they are going to be after they break in.

for those that have used them, I was thinking around .55 - .60 net. I am worried it will limit low-end extension but maybe clean them up a little and make them tighter? opinions/info would be appreciated.

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:38 pm
by Bfowler
they dont really get louder after break in, but they smooth out!

the just do everything amazing! know you know what all the fuss is about!

how are the mids installed? lets see if we can get those up to the task of keeping up with the rsdcs now!

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:29 am
by NewOldStock
Bfowler wrote:how are the mids installed? lets see if we can get those up to the task of keeping up with the rsdcs now!
the mids are nice, at least they seem so at first blush. like I said, the system isnt done being tuned though it does sound good at mid & low volumes but at high (30 of 40) things become harsh and jumbled. I dont have and wont be running a processor, so I need to fiddle with something else to get everything under control at high volumes. I might need to lower my gains again, mess with phase... though half of the songs I listen to sound ok, the other half sound horrible and within minutes fatigue the ear.

I hate tuning.

when running pink noise, I have EQ'd the system flat other than the small dip at 500hz so I dont think its an EQ issue.

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:07 am
by ttocs
I am looking forward to hearing what my two tens will sound like on the rsd1200.1 I just arranged to buy, and also can't wait to hear a fullsized midbass spaker upfront with the corrent power on them too. I think I can see myself dialing some bass out of the signal between the all of them and not have it overwelmin.

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:45 am
by stipud
Make sure you've got the gains set properly. "Turned up to half volume" doesn't mean anything when the gains are set so that the amp maxes out at half volume ;)

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:52 pm
by NewOldStock
stipud wrote:Make sure you've got the gains set properly. "Turned up to half volume" doesn't mean anything when the gains are set so that the amp maxes out at half volume ;)
NewOldStock wrote:
gains are set at about 1/3 on both fronts and sub channels...

... I have to imagine that if I actually turned the gains up to just before clipping, I might not be here tonight to write this post...

Yep, I know. :twisted: its a long way from max power yet.

I think that roadster is just pushing a sh*t-ton of power bridged. I genuinely believe its putting out something in the 200 - 250 x 2 range bridged.

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:01 pm
by ttocs
I can't wait to hear mine with the new rsd1200.1 I just got......

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:11 pm
by NewOldStock
ttocs wrote:I can't wait to hear mine with the new rsd1200.1 I just got......
kiss those golden ears goodbye ... more like blood-red and dripping ears... :P

I suppose the 30sq/ft of deadener in the trunk isnt hurting things either, but damn!

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:14 pm
by ttocs
This will be the most power I have ever had to be honest so I am really lookin forward to hearin it IF I CAN GET OUT OF THIS HOSPITAL....

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:27 am
by NewOldStock
ttocs wrote: IF I CAN GET OUT OF THIS HOSPITAL....
dood - I havent been around much, hope its nothing serious... get well soon!

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:46 am
by ttocs
SSDD - they ran tests for something called whipple disease but said it doesn;t look promising. Still undiagnosed, only been 8 yrs.

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:56 pm
by Pillow
Sounds like we need some pics ;)

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:25 pm
by NewOldStock
Pillow wrote:Sounds like we need some pics ;)
hate taking unfinished install pics... but as soon as I get the trim panel on, after tuning, I'll be posting for sure.

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:36 am
by ttocs
yea that always bugs me too......

Re: good LORD these RSDC hit hard

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:29 pm
by NewOldStock
tuning is done... install is just waiting on the machined aluminum trim piece to tie it all together.

Then pics of my trunk and head unit, since the rest is hidden.