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I might catch some flack for this but Ive never been "thrilled" with my rsdc6.5 cs. I dotn know what it is but there's something missing and I cant eq it out to fix it and it makes sound dead to me. I think its the crossovers and I dotn even want to think about goin active.

Can someone recommend a good bang for the buck set that's comparable. Something that's readily available. I don't want to be trying to track down a set of 18 year old crystal comps or something.

what do you think is missing? Highs/lows/mids? whats the budget?

I am selling my three way diamond audio hex speakers which honestly has been the best sounding set of speakers I Have ever owned but they might take some work to get them to fit. Only asking $300.

nutxo wrote:I might catch some flack for this but Ive never been "thrilled" with my rsdc6.5 cs. I dotn know what it is but there's something missing and I cant eq it out to fix it and it makes sound dead to me. I think its the crossovers and I dotn even want to think about goin active.

Can someone recommend a good bang for the buck set that's comparable. Something that's readily available. I don't want to be trying to track down a set of 18 year old crystal comps or something.

Got a set of gently used, 100% functional TIELite 5.0's that includes the 2 mids, 2 tweets, x-over and new grills / mounting rings for $225 shipped in the lower 48. I have pics and a video of them in action if ur interested.

nutxo wrote:I might catch some flack for this but Ive never been "thrilled" with my rsdc6.5 cs. I dotn know what it is but there's something missing and I cant eq it out to fix it and it makes sound dead to me. I think its the crossovers and I dotn even want to think about goin active.

Can someone recommend a good bang for the buck set that's comparable. Something that's readily available. I don't want to be trying to track down a set of 18 year old crystal comps or something.

they ARE known to be dead in the 200-250hz area. so maybe play with the eq there, then let us know if you still think something is missing, and what you think it is.

I know the rubber surround on the rsd subs are pretty darn thick. Are the surrounds on those rsd components pretty thick too? Would that be the problem to why they may sound "dead" in the 200-250hz range?

Ive never been a fan of the rsd components, they have always sounded anemic to me in most installs.
I much prefer the Alpine Type S components in comparison to the RSD's, but then again I love the sound of the Xenon components so Im full of contradiction in regard to the general consensus on here. lol

try some AVI.....you will love them...

hmm. Can I swap out the xovers with something else or do the speaker spec need to be the same?

Changing xover wont help, because the issue is not where the tweeter & woofer meet it is much lower in the freq range of the woofer, where the xover isnt doing anything (& none would). Solid install + eq work is the only thing you can do to remedy, or replace them

you could try going active with it and then add your eq as needed but switching to a different passive x-over will not buy you much I would not think

I run type r 6.5's and love their sound, 80hz and up they are very detailed and provide plenty of midrange. Very easy on the wallet.

Shinju wrote:I run type r 6.5's and love their sound, 80hz and up they are very detailed and provide plenty of midrange. Very easy on the wallet.

WHo makes em and how much power can they take?

alpine. I was not big on their speakers for the longest time but they have been getting better over the years and I could consider them.

ttocs wrote:what do you think is missing? Highs/lows/mids? whats the budget?

I am selling my three way diamond audio hex speakers which honestly has been the best sounding set of speakers I Have ever owned but they might take some work to get them to fit. Only asking $300.

These are great drivers

PhuckinGood wrote:

ttocs wrote:what do you think is missing? Highs/lows/mids? whats the budget?

I am selling my three way diamond audio hex speakers which honestly has been the best sounding set of speakers I Have ever owned but they might take some work to get them to fit. Only asking $300.

These are great drivers

I found some old speakers I'm gonna throw in there but you probably wont think highly of them. They are just some old QM 160.03 kx from like 93 or 94.

nutxo wrote:

PhuckinGood wrote:

ttocs wrote:what do you think is missing? Highs/lows/mids? whats the budget?

I am selling my three way diamond audio hex speakers which honestly has been the best sounding set of speakers I Have ever owned but they might take some work to get them to fit. Only asking $300.

These are great drivers

I found some old speakers I'm gonna throw in there but you probably wont think highly of them. They are just some old QM 160.03 kx from like 93 or 94.

mb have never had much mid bass so if you ever want to get rid of them let me know
looking for a older set to match my 3 ways set

dammit!!!!!!!!!

is there room for an enclosure for the speaker? I have been suprised more then a few times how much a small enclosure can help out on the mid area of a speaker. If there is room its as easy as finding a good sturdy tupper-ware-type of enclosure(the older thicker ones work better obviously) and then line them with some sound damping, then attach them to the baffle if there is one. It is also great for keeping the speaker dry if its in your doors.

ttocs wrote:is there room for an enclosure for the speaker? I have been suprised more then a few times how much a small enclosure can help out on the mid area of a speaker. If there is room its as easy as finding a good sturdy tupper-ware-type of enclosure(the older thicker ones work better obviously) and then line them with some sound damping, then attach them to the baffle if there is one. It is also great for keeping the speaker dry if its in your doors.

Ive had this thought already. The door speaker sits in kind of a sleeve... Ill look at it this I do the install next weekend. Id love to do kicks but they would break the deal me and my son had.

Should be a busy week, the rack is ready, building a box tomorrow, need to remake a few RCA cables ( dammit forgot to get black shrink today ) and hopefully getting it all in saturday. I have a line on an EQQ and that could stop everything dead in its tracks while i order RCA ends and some canare..

For some serious midbass u could try the Audiobahn AMD60Q! I had four of them each door in my first ever big install. Them are rocking!

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIOBAHN-AMD60Q-6- ... 43a73accdc

joerg wrote:For some serious midbass u could try the Audiobahn AMD60Q! I had four of them each door in my first ever big install. Them are rocking!

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIOBAHN-AMD60Q-6- ... 43a73accdc

lawl, I hope youre joking. We just found a pair of those in the rear deck of the car we got for my son.

nutxo wrote:

joerg wrote:For some serious midbass u could try the Audiobahn AMD60Q! I had four of them each door in my first ever big install. Them are rocking!

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIOBAHN-AMD60Q-6- ... 43a73accdc

lawl, I hope youre joking. We just found a pair of those in the rear deck of the car we got for my son.

As long as u are using them in a proper way in a nice sealed enclosure in the door running from 50 to 175Hz those are performing very well. Not joking at all.

Other than that u can always use the K series from Focal. But i doubt that u will find a pair for 60bucks plus shipping.

joerg wrote:

nutxo wrote:

joerg wrote:For some serious midbass u could try the Audiobahn AMD60Q! I had four of them each door in my first ever big install. Them are rocking!

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIOBAHN-AMD60Q-6- ... 43a73accdc

lawl, I hope youre joking. We just found a pair of those in the rear deck of the car we got for my son.

As long as u are using them in a proper way in a nice sealed enclosure in the door running from 50 to 175Hz those are performing very well. Not joking at all.

Other than that u can always use the K series from Focal. But i doubt that u will find a pair for 60bucks plus shipping.

I'm gonna try the door thing. I mean if you knew what the inside of my doors looked like. Steel skin with fiberglass. Probably not the best home for a speaker.

Anyways, Its almost 1am. gnite all

nutxo wrote:

ttocs wrote:is there room for an enclosure for the speaker? I have been suprised more then a few times how much a small enclosure can help out on the mid area of a speaker. If there is room its as easy as finding a good sturdy tupper-ware-type of enclosure(the older thicker ones work better obviously) and then line them with some sound damping, then attach them to the baffle if there is one. It is also great for keeping the speaker dry if its in your doors.

Ive had this thought already. The door speaker sits in kind of a sleeve... Ill look at it this I do the install next weekend. Id love to do kicks but they would break the deal me and my son had.

Should be a busy week, the rack is ready, building a box tomorrow, need to remake a few RCA cables ( dammit forgot to get black shrink today ) and hopefully getting it all in saturday. I have a line on an EQQ and that could stop everything dead in its tracks while i order RCA ends and some canare..

Just remember a smaller enclosure will hurt mid-bass performance. I made small PVC enclosures for mine and ended up using a hole-saw to cut a few holes in the back to let the woofer "breathe" as mid-bass suffered from not having enough air space. I too have noticed that the RSD's lack some mid-range, but a little EQ-ing should help that out.