Phoenix Gold Phorum

I am looking to hook up a lower wattage system around 400 rms or so. I would like to know what subs perform well at the 200 rms range. I feel that I don't need ridiculous wattage to sound good. I am getting a Xenon 400.1 from dvnt88 soon and I have a sealed box at around 1.2 cubic ft. per chamber that I am going to put the 12's into. I am mainly looking for good sound quality and range. I have about 150 bucks to spend, so let me know if any of you guys have a pair of subs you are looking to get rid of.

As far as brand goes, I would like to get PG, but I have looked around and couldn't really find anything that fits the bill. So I am open to pretty much any brand out there. Thanks!

Look for old school stuff. they have lower wattage ratings than almost all the newer subs. maybe Xmax?

i have a like new kicker xpl12 second gen for sale. i had another one on a ms275 and it sounded great and got plenty loud.

todd217 wrote:i have a like new kicker xpl12 second gen for sale. i had another one on a ms275 and it sounded great and got plenty loud.

You happen to have a pair? If so, pm me with some pics and we will discuss it from there.

lukeman269 wrote:

todd217 wrote:i have a like new kicker xpl12 second gen for sale. i had another one on a ms275 and it sounded great and got plenty loud.

You happen to have a pair? If so, pm me with some pics and we will discuss it from there.

I ran the version ones off of an M50 back when and I was hitting 135 db and they had great SQ and dug down low..... great subs

i've heard lots of good things about the new rockford p1's

and the ryvals dont play too low...but they do sound nice

i hurt my ear today with 200 watts and a single dcon 10d4

Id go for a single dcon 12

Luke - I have a NIB (minus the box) Image Dynamics ID12d4 v.3 that runs at 350-400wrms and had it for sale awhile ago for $100 shipped, lmk if interested and will send ya some pics.

JL W0, RSd (not Comps), Dcon, the ID above, Elemental Designs 0v series. All I think would treat you right.

Thanks for the help guys! I am either going to get rsd's or jl audio w0v2's if I can find any. I posted an ad on the buy and sell trying to get a pair of rsd's. If you guys know anyone that has any rsd's or w0v2's, let me know.

Actually the RSDCs are plenty good on 200 watts as well. I preferred my RSDC over my RSD on 250 watts. Not to mention a much smaller box requirement as well!

stipud wrote:Actually the RSDCs are plenty good on 200 watts as well. I preferred my RSDC over my RSD on 250 watts. Not to mention a much smaller box requirement as well!

I think the rsdc's are a little out of my price range though.

i'm gonna have to agree with tom. the rsdc's > rsd's on any amount of power.

rsd's are still plenty good though

The Kicker 2nd gen XPLs are awesome, kinda miss my 10" but I know who has her & I could see/hear her anytime. If you want to stay PG,, I'd recommend the XS over the XMAX for the power & better SQ.

Outside of PG, TREO's TSi 12" would be my next choice.

I have never been a fan of kicker with out alot of power for them myself.

ttocs wrote:I have never been a fan of kicker with out alot of power for them myself.

The xpl was a low wattage high efficiency sub the xpl is still one of my faves, the rest from kicker is...meh

I heard Toms Dcon and I loved it!!!!! and it is one of the sexiest looking subs aswell!!!

Oh I forgot to mention that I heard it in MY CAR