Daily driver system

Need help with your car stereo system? Have a technical question? Post here.
Post Reply
jammer750
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:29 pm

Daily driver system

Post by jammer750 »

Here is what I have planed for my daily driver...
Pioneer premier FH-P800BT
Tantrum line driver
Tantrum bass cube
EQ215i black wrinkle
Tantrum MX2 to handle mids to tweeter crossover duty.
Tantrum 250.2 to RSD tweeters.
Tantrum 500.2 to RSD 6.5" mids
Tantrum 500.2 bridged to a TantrumX 12 sub.

What do ya think ?
Last edited by jammer750 on Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Eric D
Short Bus Driver
Posts: 4255
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:50 am

Re: Daily driver system

Post by Eric D »

EQ215 in black? Are you sure it is not an EQ215ix? I never heard of an EQ215 in black, but that does not mean they did not make them.

With the voltage your head unit has, I don't think you need the Tantrum line driver.
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
jammer750
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:29 pm

Re: Daily driver system

Post by jammer750 »

Eric D wrote:EQ215 in black? Are you sure it is not an EQ215ix? I never heard of an EQ215 in black, but that does not mean they did not make them.

With the voltage your head unit has, I don't think you need the Tantrum line driver.
Yeah, The head unit has 4v out but I figure that is max out.
I am going to put the line driver under the dash to put a strong signal to the back of the car.
I just looked it is a EQ215i not the EQ215ix. I have one of those too. both black wrinkle.
The crossover in the ix does not have the 10x multiplier like the MX2
I forgot I have a Kinetik HC600 for power reinforcement.
I also have a 1Farad Ti series cap. if you think I need it.
ttocs
the Floor Sweeping Hack with Golden Ears
Posts: 14784
Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:53 pm

Re: Daily driver system

Post by ttocs »

scrap the cap and you will be fine.
what else can I say I am a grumpy asshole most of the time.
User avatar
Stryker
Posts: 1567
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:22 pm
Location: Calgary

Re: Daily driver system

Post by Stryker »

drop the cap and the get a better sub. Everything else seems good to me.
screw car audio, I'd rather go fast....errr, wait a minute.
User avatar
smgreen20
Posts: 2873
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:23 am
Location: Somewhere in Between

Re: Daily driver system

Post by smgreen20 »

After A LOT of reading, I now have a new, final stand concerning EXTERNAL caps. I share my findings with one of the writer/reviewers from CA&E magazine. In that...
Regulated power supplies and SPL systems = NO External cap
UNregulated power supplies and strictly SQ systems = External cap

Reason/s,
In a regulated power supply an external cap is just short of pointless. Most regulated amps will produce the same output from 11-16 VDC.
In SPL Systems, a 2nd (or more) batteries will be of more benefit.
In unregulated power supplies, the voltage can/will drop, the addition of an external cap can/will help.
In SQ systems, the filtering of the DC ripple could be of importance.

An external cap doesn't present as much of a load as a 2nd battery, nor the cost.

So I will ask, as I'm unsure, are the Tantrum amps regulated or unregulated?

Either way, I think you have the beginnings of a great system.
"ZPA's will have the same sound essentially as you get from the MS, they just feature a bigger shinier set of balls."

Install:
http://phoenixphorum.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16998
davewaibel
Posts: 532
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:34 am

Re: Daily driver system

Post by davewaibel »

I have 3 215''s in black- they definitely made them- seems like overkill on power for the 6's and the tweeters-
User avatar
Eric D
Short Bus Driver
Posts: 4255
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:50 am

Re: Daily driver system

Post by Eric D »

davewaibel wrote:I have 3 215''s in black- they definitely made them- seems like overkill on power for the 6's and the tweeters-
Can you post a photo? I have never seen one before and I wonder how they look.

As for the cap, install it and use it. If you don't like it, then remove it.

As for the line driver, my fear is adding more equipment than you need just adds more noise. Since your head unit is good at 4V, your next processor in the chain (the EQ) will get plenty of signal. Going from the 4V head unit to 8V of line driver is not as drastic as it may seem.
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
ttocs
the Floor Sweeping Hack with Golden Ears
Posts: 14784
Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:53 pm

Re: Daily driver system

Post by ttocs »

davewaibel wrote:I have 3 215''s in black- they definitely made them- seems like overkill on power for the 6's and the tweeters-
I am using one in my system but only to seperate the low-pass that wll then be fed into the Ti9s(50-160hz) I am running, the Ti x-over that came with the set will do the rest of the work.
what else can I say I am a grumpy asshole most of the time.
User avatar
dvnt88
Posts: 2330
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:13 am
Location: Portland, Oregon

Re: Daily driver system

Post by dvnt88 »

Eric D wrote:EQ215 in black? Are you sure it is not an EQ215ix? I never heard of an EQ215 in black, but that does not mean they did not make them.

With the voltage your head unit has, I don't think you need the Tantrum line driver.
Yes ...they do come in black as I just traded for this beauty which will be goin' in the sound board from a local member :whistle: . Pic below. :twisted:
Attachments
Tantrum EQ215 in Wrinkle Black.
Tantrum EQ215 in Wrinkle Black.
Audison Bit Ten
Hertz HSK163's (x2)
Hertz HX250 subs (x2)
Hertz HDP1
Hertz HDP4
PG Tantrum BassCUBE
XS Power D4900
Misc. PG Install Goodies


"Old-Skool TI-Whore"
User avatar
smgreen20
Posts: 2873
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:23 am
Location: Somewhere in Between

Re: Daily driver system

Post by smgreen20 »

That's a EQ15, we're talking about EQ215i or ix.
"ZPA's will have the same sound essentially as you get from the MS, they just feature a bigger shinier set of balls."

Install:
http://phoenixphorum.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16998
User avatar
dvnt88
Posts: 2330
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:13 am
Location: Portland, Oregon

Re: Daily driver system

Post by dvnt88 »

smgreen20 wrote:That's a EQ15, we're talking about EQ215i or ix.

The EQ215 and EQ15 are the same thing. :twisted:
Audison Bit Ten
Hertz HSK163's (x2)
Hertz HX250 subs (x2)
Hertz HDP1
Hertz HDP4
PG Tantrum BassCUBE
XS Power D4900
Misc. PG Install Goodies


"Old-Skool TI-Whore"
ttocs
the Floor Sweeping Hack with Golden Ears
Posts: 14784
Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:53 pm

Re: Daily driver system

Post by ttocs »

I thought the "i" added the time delay on the aux output and the "x" of course had a cross over built in?
what else can I say I am a grumpy asshole most of the time.
User avatar
smgreen20
Posts: 2873
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:23 am
Location: Somewhere in Between

Re: Daily driver system

Post by smgreen20 »

I know they're the same, but the question or debate was, did they make a black LABELED EQ215i?
"ZPA's will have the same sound essentially as you get from the MS, they just feature a bigger shinier set of balls."

Install:
http://phoenixphorum.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16998
User avatar
Eric D
Short Bus Driver
Posts: 4255
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:50 am

Re: Daily driver system

Post by Eric D »

As pointed out, that is an EQ15, not an EQ215.

I still would like to see an EQ215 in black, as I have never seen one before.
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
User avatar
Eric D
Short Bus Driver
Posts: 4255
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:50 am

Re: Daily driver system

Post by Eric D »

This is the closest I have seen, but it is not an EQ215, and it is really not black...

Image
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
jammer750
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:29 pm

Re: Daily driver system

Post by jammer750 »

I have 3 215''s in black- they definitely made them- seems like overkill on power for the 6's and the tweeters-
A little. But it will add up to headroom. I will set the gains so it stays CLEAN.

Here is mine. It's a little dusty and has some wear on the graphics.
Image
davewaibel
Posts: 532
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:34 am

Re: Daily driver system

Post by davewaibel »

same as mine- so I don't have to figure out how to load photos
User avatar
Eric D
Short Bus Driver
Posts: 4255
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:50 am

Re: Daily driver system

Post by Eric D »

Well, does anyone have a photo of a black EQ215? Or were they never made?
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
User avatar
smgreen20
Posts: 2873
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:23 am
Location: Somewhere in Between

Re: Daily driver system

Post by smgreen20 »

So it was just a EQ215 w/o the i or ix? That was my bad, but I understood what Eric was asking.
"ZPA's will have the same sound essentially as you get from the MS, they just feature a bigger shinier set of balls."

Install:
http://phoenixphorum.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16998
Audiophiliac
Posts: 918
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:41 pm
Location: Boise, ID

Re: Daily driver system

Post by Audiophiliac »

I have always thought that the EQ215x/EQ215ix were one of the most useful processors ever made. A 2/3 oct. stereo EQ with a good xover section and LPL port. Brilliant product! :)
Post Reply