Phoenix Gold Phorum

hi guys
just wondering if these are nice subs. they look great. it shows on paper they need a small box
i will have about 450 watt rms
i like the idea of good output and small box
what have you used and liked port/sealed box size and power

they work best of the ti series woofers- the 12 is ok, and the 15 has the same motor as the 10- they do work well in small enclosures- you wont be winning any db drags withs them, but the are pretty musical for what they are, if you look around enough, you can find them new for 60 or less

since i have not like or used many pg sub are they like any of the jl line for sound and output?
my local pawn shop is about 99 im sure i can get it fot less

would compare the 10 ti to jlw3v2-

thanks