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				morgan
				Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:16 pm
				by southfloridaPGlover
				whats with these z amps? and y no elite amps on site? but everthing eles.
			 
			
					
				Re: morgan
				Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:26 am
				by MW3
				Z is for INTL only.
Elite will go up soon, I just finished the amp manual. 
Speaker manuals I am working on as I write this..
			 
			
					
				Re: morgan
				Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:56 am
				by stipud
				Another new line? Whoah!
http://www.phoenixgold.com/products/amplifiers/Z/
How do these stand up against the R series?
 
			
					
				Re: morgan
				Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:04 am
				by kg1961
				they look like the euro octane(ryval) line did back in the day
			 
			
					
				Re: morgan
				Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:41 am
				by stipud
				kg1961 wrote:they look like the euro octane(ryval) line did back in the day
Pretty sure you're right 

 
			
					
				Re: morgan
				Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:36 pm
				by kg1961
				i got a chance about 5 years ao to try the octane 12's from the uk
i asked pg about them and phil said he never tried them or knew much about them
i like them i had to say the best pg sub for easy box 500watt and they were great i sold them in 4month 

  to upgrade but i was very happy
i would buy them back today if i could
 
			
					
				Re: morgan
				Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:55 pm
				by Bfowler
				kg1961 wrote:i got a chance about 5 years ao to try the octane 12's from the uk
i asked pg about them and phil said he never tried them or knew much about them
i like them i had to say the best pg sub for easy box 500watt and they were great i sold them in 4month 

  to upgrade but i was very happy
i would buy them back today if i could
 
were euro octanes subs different then NA market ones?
 
			
					
				Re: morgan
				Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:13 am
				by MW3
				No difference between Octane woofers for INTL and USA. 
As for these Z amps, they have nothing to do with older Ryval product. 
They are for specific INTL accounts, they are actually nicely built with full SMT boards.