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NappyFro
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little black box

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My friend is trying to say this thing he calls the little black box is better than the bass cube. He claims it was made by phoenix gold back in the 90s, but never was put into production. Anyone ever heard of this thing before, and any more info would be great, cause if it is better than the basscube, i want to try to buy it from him

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Re: little black box

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looks like a cross over to me but not sure on brand. The circuit board would tell you what you need to know. Been painted over what ever it was.
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Re: little black box

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Its diffently not a xover since it only has one set of rca output. Maybe morgan can shed some light on this subject, cause im wondering if the dude is pulling my chain.
Jvc KD-A95BT headunit
Audison bit1
PG Elite65cs in the front doors
PG ti6cs in rear doors
pair of PG ti10d2 for midbass
Elite12d4 for sub
PG basscube with remote
Ti800.4 X2
Ti2500.1
high end Stinger power/ground, speaker wire
and a few other goodies from PAC and Stinger
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Re: little black box

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way more pics needed
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Re: little black box

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Open it up and have a look...
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Re: little black box

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I have seen a lot of pg proto's and that definitely doesnt look pg to me
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Re: little black box

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I will try to get more pics of it, and the guts. im gonna pm morgan to see if he can comment on this piece before we crack it open, and maybe destroying it...
Jvc KD-A95BT headunit
Audison bit1
PG Elite65cs in the front doors
PG ti6cs in rear doors
pair of PG ti10d2 for midbass
Elite12d4 for sub
PG basscube with remote
Ti800.4 X2
Ti2500.1
high end Stinger power/ground, speaker wire
and a few other goodies from PAC and Stinger
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Re: little black box

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Looks to me like a low pass filter with a bass boost. Little black box that many people refer to is a mtx lsb1. I have 2.
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Re: little black box

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This is what morgan replied via pm

MW3 wrote:This looks like a prototype of the basscube from wwwwaaaaayyyy back. How did he get his hands on that?

Do you work at Radioactive in Garner, NC?

Morgan
Jvc KD-A95BT headunit
Audison bit1
PG Elite65cs in the front doors
PG ti6cs in rear doors
pair of PG ti10d2 for midbass
Elite12d4 for sub
PG basscube with remote
Ti800.4 X2
Ti2500.1
high end Stinger power/ground, speaker wire
and a few other goodies from PAC and Stinger
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Re: little black box

Post by MW3 »

I have never seen this black box, but it certainly looks like a Basscube proto.

Would have to see the guts to confirm its a PG item, but the screws, sheetmetal and potentiometers match pretty closely to what we used at that time.

I am curious what is the button or pot in the lower right hand corner says?
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Re: little black box

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I will see the guy tomorrow, so ill try to talk him into letting me take snap shots of the guts.
Jvc KD-A95BT headunit
Audison bit1
PG Elite65cs in the front doors
PG ti6cs in rear doors
pair of PG ti10d2 for midbass
Elite12d4 for sub
PG basscube with remote
Ti800.4 X2
Ti2500.1
high end Stinger power/ground, speaker wire
and a few other goodies from PAC and Stinger
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Re: little black box

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heres a gut shot of the internals, sorry for the crappy iphone pics

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heres some better shots of the outside unit it self

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he also let me take a snap shot of these prototypes

m50 with the silver heat sinks.

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the prototype mx2

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Jvc KD-A95BT headunit
Audison bit1
PG Elite65cs in the front doors
PG ti6cs in rear doors
pair of PG ti10d2 for midbass
Elite12d4 for sub
PG basscube with remote
Ti800.4 X2
Ti2500.1
high end Stinger power/ground, speaker wire
and a few other goodies from PAC and Stinger
ttocs
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Re: little black box

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cool stuff who is yer friend?
what else can I say I am a grumpy asshole most of the time.
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Re: little black box

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he is the owner of radio active in garner, nc...he also used to work at soundsolutions/new sound in the northern virginia back in the 90s
Jvc KD-A95BT headunit
Audison bit1
PG Elite65cs in the front doors
PG ti6cs in rear doors
pair of PG ti10d2 for midbass
Elite12d4 for sub
PG basscube with remote
Ti800.4 X2
Ti2500.1
high end Stinger power/ground, speaker wire
and a few other goodies from PAC and Stinger
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Re: little black box

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Internals match was PG used at that time. Looks legit to me.
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